Friday, July 30, 2010

Weight Shift…Sit or Sink Over and Onto Your Back Leg

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Today I’m going to discuss weight shirt or weight transfer in the backswing. In a blog the other day, John OB asked this of me. “Hi, Don. Regarding loading or weight transfer. First, at what point should it happen in the backswing? And second, there is another element of this segment of the swing that puzzles me a bit. Should one feel that the body weight is downward or upward or neutral during the backswing, or could either have any bearing on clubhead speed?”

Well, John, the weight shift or weight transfer should happen immediately as the backswing starts. We know that in the Peak Performance Golf Swing setup, we like the preloaded heavy right position. What that means is we should have our weight already over, onto the back leg. That means we’re behind the ball to begin with. This way, what little turn we do make, because the Peak Performance Golf Swing is a limited, is we’re already there. Any turn is immediately over and on to a flexed back leg.

The term “loading” implies that, first and foremost, when you load something onto it, you are placing it on there and it receives the weight. For example, if you were out playing golf and you sit down onto a golf cart, you have “loaded” yourself onto the golf cart. When all of the weight reaches the seat you’ll notice the cart’s springs compress downward a little bit because it has received the weight. So loading implies receiving. Because it’s received the weight, that means, just like the springs on the cart or a car compress , so must the muscles in your rear leg compress.

That means that as you start your backswing, and I believe we start it with the right, if you’re right handed, hip and shoulder, would start the turn and immediately, the turning of the hips and, since you are already on the right side, the weight goes downward. You should feel flexing in the leg and you should be able to see that the knee cap or knee joint is actually bending more. It is receiving the weight. This isn’t a whole lot, it just has to go down an inch or so. Because we’re already behind the ball to start with, this turning and loading onto the leg is moving downward.

I might also add that another way we can look at this transfer of the weight or weight shift, because we’re loading and the back leg is compressing, that you feel like you are sitting or sinking into your back leg. I like those two terms because it implies a downward compression of the leg. Yopu feel the muscles in the back of the leg, from the back of the hip all the way down to the back of your knee should be stretching, and if stretching, that means they’re getting longer.

That means they are in a position now to be able to do what? Spring up when you transition and shift to the forward finish. So think about and feel that a good backswing turn means you will set ot sink onto your back leg.

Since we know that a Peak Performance Golf Swing says that we should swing up in the forward upswing to the T-Finish, when you load onto your rear leg in the backswing and it compresses downward, that actually sets you up for a perfect swing to the finish. Conversely, the key is that people get hurt in a golf swing when you turn your shoulders and hips too much. As long as your back leg is connected to your back hip, it will actually pull the back leg straight.

I’ve seen professional golfers have their teachers stand behind them with their club pushed into the back of their knee to help keep it flexed. That can do it when you’re turning. But the simple key to your back leg not straightening in the backswing is: Don’t turn too much! Make the limited, Peak Performance Golf Swing 70 degree turn to your forearm over your toe line and the leg will not straighten. But at the same time you really need to make sure that you allow the weight to, when it shifts, load onto the leg, compress the leg a little bit so that it flexes downward, and now we’re perfectly set up to swing forward.

Again, if you turn too much and your back leg straightens, well if it goes up, the equal and opposite of up is down. That’s what happens to most golfers. The leg straightens and when they start their downswing the back leg breaks down. As the forward side turns out, it pulls the hips in and the leg breaks downward.

So we have a backwards swing. You’re going up in the backswing, down in the forward swing. What we want is down in the backswing so we can swing up in the forward swing. That’s what allows up to swing up and hit the ball and have more acceleration in the swing because we are swinging up.

You ask if weight shift had any bearing on clubhead speed. Absolutely. If you’re swing up and your arms are swinging up and your body’s standing up, everything is standing up to that T-Finish. Everything going up is going to allow more acceleration of the arms and the club and, as we know, more clubhead speed hits the ball farther.

So, yes, John, the swing should go downward in the backswing as you load onto your back leg and therefore up in the forward swing. You do these two things, you will see increased clubhead speed because it’s easier to swing up when you are actually standing up.

The Surge!

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  • kenneth
    I played with a young guy of 66 years yesterday with the most beautiful swing, and,never had a lesson in his life ,were ,I have had 40 years of lessons ?
    we are all different I guess.
    after completing my round of golf yesterday I leaped over a green side bunker .
    Kenneth born in1930.
    yes all the seniors hate me.
  • steve strickland
    Don,

    My issue is frustration with bad luck. I was a 6 consistently and have broken par three times in my life. However, I had a a vision issue they took sight away form my right eye--it was my dominant eye. I ahve been unable to break 80 since--this is a three year on going process. I am frustrated--is there a secret to eye / hand coordination exercises that may be helpful getting my left up to speed. Depth perception is a real issue, too. Thanks.
  • Nelson
    Don

    I recently played a course with rented clubs while attending Spring training games. Of course I was anxious to try your swing after reading about it all winter. I found as I was playing that the set did not have a 5 iron, which I use for 150 yds. I had a 157 shot over water to a green and had to use a 6 iron. I was amazed that by using your swing I hit my 6 iron on the green. So much for a worry about losing distance. As I will be 74 in a month, I believe I have hit upon a swing that will keep me in there a while longer, Thanks.
  • Mike (South Africa)
    to all our engleeesh critics - PLEASE guys we are all educated enough to absorb any speeeeeling mistakes and know what was intended!! I don't want an English lesson here thanks it's about GOLF - please don't waste time with trivialities (like this email !!! )
  • Bob B
    Surge,
    I am a little confused about the description of "weight shift" in this Post and what is described in the manual and shown on your videos. I know you advocate the preload heavy right at address, but do you actually shift additional weight from the front foot to the back foot in the backswing?

    The second paragraph in this Post implies that you don't shift additional weight to the back foot from the initial 60/40 distribution (a minimum) recommended. You just turn, compress the back leg, then lift. Your videos of DJ and yourself also seem to show no additional weight shift from front to the back leg, because you both keep your fornt foot on the ground during the complete swing. In your manual on pg 38, paragraph 2, in the description of the preload heavy right you also infer that no additioanl weight shift occurs.

    But on pg 39, paragraph 2 of the manual you imply that there is a weight shift when you say in your explanation of a too wide stance width,

    "you will immobilize your lower body, which in turn will reduce or eliminate the weight shift to the right leg on the backswing and the subsequent weight shift to the left side on the downswing."

    So, does the preload heavy right weight distribution between the front and back foot change during the backswing? I know it does in the traditional rotational swing because I have done it that way for years and many pros on TV also do it. It is just not clear to me if any actual weight transfer takes place in the PPGS swing, or if the "shift" is just the small compression of the flexed back leg described in this post. If true additional weight shift does take place in the backswing, how much is it supposed to be?

    It might be interesting to test this with split scales, one for the front foot , one for the back foot. I remember reading a an article in Golf Digest many years ago where they did just this test with a number of pros to see what their initial weight distribution was and compared it to the backswing and finished swing weight distribution. I'd be curious to see what yours' and DJs weight distribution profile would be like.
  • Tim Scott
    Seeing is believing. I know you say open the club face into the mitt and close it the same on the upswing into the mitt. Well I have been struggling with a big hook. (Used to have a slice then it got straight then to a hook) So I have been going to a par 3 course to work on my short game. Sometimes I would hit hit great and other times there was the hook. So one time by accident I looked at my right hand after a hook and sure enough the back of my hand was facing the sky. I had turned the club face way too much. So my way of looking at it now is: open the club face no more than parallel to my target and close it no farther than my target. The back of my hand goes from perpendicular to the target to parallel and back to perpendicular and back to parallel. I know this is what you teach but I just had an ah ha moment and it clicked on the course. I'm sure a lot of what you have shown me will click soon also. Thanks a lot.
  • Ted Edwards DC
    A really strange things has happened. I've lost my PPGS. About 3 weeks ago I played one of the best rounds in my life. The next time I went out I couldn't hit the bit at all. I was hitting what I think are shnaks although one of Don's posts led me to reconsider that I just had my club face wide open. I've been reviewing the videos and reading the posts to no avail. I went to the range yesterday and could hit my 9 iron just fine. As soon as I tried to hit with an 8 and 7 the shank looking result came back. I'd switch to the 9 for 2 balls hit it great. Pick up the 8 and wham nothing. Very frustrating to say the least. I really love playing golf - I just wish the darn golf swing I have would be a little more dependable. It's rather unnerving and bad for ones confidence when you play really well for awhile and than wake up one day to find you cannot hit the ball. This happened earlier last week. Went to the range, was hitting them beautfiully - even with the 7, 8 and at the course disaster. Ouch. Misery loves company. Does anyone else have experiences like this?
  • Colin
    Going through a really bad patch with my swing.(60 yr old 20HC)At times cannot remember how to swing.Ball goes left and right!Trying something a little different each time in search of a solution.Confused with too much technique!
  • Phil
    Surge; Thank you for bringing down the so called English teachers. There is enough to think about, just trying to get the swing down.We are all human and being that, we are allowed to make a mistake once in a while. If we never make one than we are not doing anything.
  • matt
    Hi how do i stop overswinginh i think this is also why i hit fat shots,hope you can help me
  • Ronnie McCurry
    Last year I experimented with the hockey grip for short chips because I was chunking. I found it to be very accurate. I sometimes use a split/hockey grip putting because it gives me the feel of rolling the ball to the hole with my right hand.


    Jim, if you live in Spartanburg maybe you should go see J Griffen in Columbia and also get properly fitted. thegolfstop.net
  • Pascual Babes Pastor
    To Mark Plunkett
    Its nice to have PPGS members like you to unselfishly share with us the swing thoughts that you have developed while applying the golf tips from Don our tireless instructor. In particular the transfer of weight which you found enhanced without thinking just straightening the right elbow from the top positon of 90 deg on its down swing movement. In fact that is exactly PPGS key move of RING THE BELL" after pointing up the tree. I just tried it at my back yard driving net and it is much easier to execute. I will try it tomorrow when I play nine holes in our golf course. Thanks for guys like you and may your breed thrive among us.
    Pascual.
  • jim
    surge, i am a 71 (72 in 2 months) year old male. i love this game but am getting frustated. i have been watching different lessons on tv and afraid i have tried about all of them. my game and swing are so messed up that i need some help. i live within 50 miles of spartanburg. is there a place i can go to get lessons, and approx. the costs. i am on a fixed income and therefore have to watch out financially. please advise.
  • Michael
    Hi Don,

    Re: weight-shift and balance.

    I note that when you and DJ (and most other good golfers) reach the impact position your back (right) foot is flat on the ground, Immediately after impact your back (right) leg rotates down the target line and your back foot rises to a vertical position and balances on your toe. Is this action deliberate, or is it a natural consequence of a good forward upswing?

    I feel as though I achieve an effective weight transfer in both the back swing and the forward swing, but my back (right) foot never reaches a vertical position in my follow-through. My heel rises about 3 - 4 inches above the ground and my balance point is on the side of my right big toe, and my foot is at right angles to the swing line. Does this finish position indicate that I am not fully releasing my right side through impact? In order to get up on my right toe, post impact, I have to deliberately make it happen.

    I have read two conflicting bits of advice on releasing the right side through impact:

    1. 'Fire the right side through the ball'. 2. 'Let the right side rotate around a firm left leg through impact'.

    If I try to 'fire my right side through the ball' I'll be in deep trouble, as my right side will just try to take over the entire swing. I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.

    Cheers.
  • Gordon Rector
    Don, I just read another teacher's advice on pitch shots and he says to keep 60% of your weight on your front foot during the backswing. Is this advice correct? Thanks Gordon Rector
  • The Surge!
    To Carlos Toda,

    I believe you will see from the definitions of both words in Webster's dictionary that both are correct. Also note that most of the definitions of further have farther in them. Please pay particular attention to the NOTE at the end of the definitions of further.

    Webster's defines:

    Farther as 1. more distant 2. additional;more 3.at or to a greater distance.

    Further: 1. additional 2. more distant; farther.at or to a greater distance; farther. Note: The last definition of further is: Farther is more commonly used.

    The Surge!
  • The Surge!
    To Bill D.

    The limited turn is definitely the key to helping relieve the stress on your back. The best part is that a 90 degree turn is not needed and in fact violates the laws of physics of impact as well as the design of the human body for which turning 90 degrees is way more than it can do.

    When you get back to the states, contact Ken at customer service and he checks in with me.

    Until then, stay safe and good luck,

    The Surge!
  • Surge, and I mean this constructively, please run a grammar or spell check after writing your daily column. They are great, but could be a bit more professionally presented.

    Keep 'em coming.
  • The Surge!
    To Joe Pepe,

    I would still prefer the hands touching in a regular square palms perpendicular grip whether it be overlap, interlock or 10 finger.

    I will also go so far as to say that if the palms are perpendicular and can get to a square and solid impact consistently, than the hockey grip is OK if that is what works for you.

    I would not offer the hockey grip as an option for everyone to try, as since I believe in sound fundamentals. the hockey grip is what I would classify as an alternative grip to try if one cannot use one of the more fundamental ones.

    The Surge!
  • First time out this year to try your instruction, had a few really nice straight shots but not much for distance. The marker flags were not out but am estimating about 200 with my driver. Normally I hit 240 to 260. Pleas note i am changing to brand new clubs. I used to have a stiff shaft persimmon woods and now am going to a Slazenger senior set with graphite shafts and metal woods(EEEWWWW) . Yes I am an old schooler age 62 and have to undo alot of thinking but I did find I either sliced or faded 90% of my shots. I did notice when I slowed down my swing it got straighter but lost a bunch on distance. How can I keep my face square at impact while producing enough velocity without overwhelming my graphite shafts. I changed from stiff to senior because I could no longer flex the stiff shafts. (I hated giving up my persimmons and I cringe everytime I hear that ping sound....uugghh) butchange is inevitable I guess. Thanks for any respons you could give me.
  • The Surge!
    To John OB,

    When I come to Ireland, I will look forward to sharing a pint of Guinness with you.

    The Surge!
  • The Surge!
    To Roger Faulk,

    The best thing to do to relieve stress on either knee and especially the forward knee in the weight transfer and swinging up to the T-Finish with the weight on the forward leg and knee is to OPEN up the foot more.

    Opening up the foot more, that is turning it outward, provides more external rotation for the knee and this relieves stress and strain. You need to experiment, with opening it up as much as possible and at the same time feel the weight transfer to learn swinging up to a balanced finish.

    The PPGS recommends the feet be flared 30 degrees as the standard. I flare my forward/left foot a minimum of 45 to 50 degrees. I can even hit the ball well with the foot flared to actually pointing at the target. So, flare your left foot until your knee feels less to no stress as possible and you can swing to a balanced T - Finish.

    The Surge!
  • The Surge!
    Rick,

    Keeping the back heel off the ground, I believe, is not the answer. For starters, you would not be set up pre-loaded heavy right. When you start your weight shift, you have to plant the foot rather than the weight shift to the back knee flexing it and feeling the sit or sinking over and onto the flexed leg.

    The Surge!
  • Dan Battles
    Good lesson, Don. And an interesting shortcut to the 'bump" by MarkP. above. Here's my concern today: My lower right back hurts after getting out on the real course for the first time today. Which part of the swing did I probably do wrong that probably caused this? Any thoughts, anyone?
  • Brett Johnson
    I,too, would like to know howm to get the book that details your swing. I recently purchased your internet videos, but don't have a book.
    Thanks

    Brett Johnson
  • Carlos Toda
    Most times when you and DJ say the word "farther" the correct English is "further" . For example: "You will hit the ball "further" . Farther is used to compare -eg. your feet are farther from your head than your arms"
  • Don Correia
    Is it possible to either sent me or publish again the blurb on in the mitt and up the tree with a diagram. I loss my hard drive and [you got it] no backup and I didn't print it either. Thankz very much even if you can't. Appreciate the blog.
  • Del Stephens
    How do I get the book which describes in detail your swing. The Internet Videos that I bought refer to a book with complete step by step instructions.

    thanks
    Del Stephens
  • Mark Plunkett
    Bill & to Donna (I think this may help with your problem from yesterday)
    I have found (& noticed) that you will never have to think about doing the Bump if you focus on straightenning your trail 90deg arm in the down/upswing...it will happen perfectly every time.By practising a simple drill of standing with my backarm/hand (only) in the 'taking an oath postion' with the arm up in the 90deg open palm perpendicular to the ground top of the 3/4 turn 12 o'clock position if you start to straighten that arm in the downswing notice what happens to your body-the little forward bump movement then hip turn occurs o so naturally without even thinking about it or forcing it to happen.ie. you notice that just before the arm starts to move the brain automatically has made the bump for you for this to happen...so you can thank God for this one!
    I have found by just doing this exercise slowly then focusing on this as my prime swing thought in the down-upswing whilst playing that this is the real key to making the PPGS work...it is making me hit very pure,straight (even with a beautiful little draw if i want) & longer without my previous shoulder initiated downswing.
    I have now also noticed that i can straighten (ie.swing) that back arm faster without increasing body/shoulder movement or speed because #1.I have stopped the shoulder initiated movement in my swing which causes everything bad in my swing esp actual swing speed #2.my body is now acting as the hand in the spinning a ball on a string analogy & my arms are definately now the string where before my shoulders & body were as well when they should in fact be the hand part. #3. now i am moving the clubhead on the correct arc which Don describes as a feeling of "on,on & on" but i like "down,thru,up". with my arm as one continous movement .
    It is critical as Don explains that the palms (when openned at any point) stay perpendicular to the ground at ALL stages of the golf swing...this is a square on plane clubface & only requires the straightenning of the trail arm to get it back to a square impact & beyond if the hands have remained perpendicular.
    Try it as it works fantastic for me!
  • Partha
    All these words and paragraphs can be explained in 10 small illustrations with 2 lines explaining each !! You are leaving much to the reader's imagination with so much narration and that's not good at all.
  • Surge - Great tip on the "backward" swing. Pls comment on the short game - mini weight shift or no weight shift with the weight preset on the left side? Thanks, MO
  • Bill D.
    Hey Don,

    I am 56, yet still in excellent shape. I am a retiring Naval officer, and am looking to get my PGA card and spend my "golden years" teaching golf in Florida. I am very interested in your concept because, although I am fit, my back muscles are extremely tight fro 35+ yrs. of weightlifting, and not working on flexibility as I should have. Consequently, it requires a great deal of effort to get my back to that 90 degree position. And when I tire, it just won't go there. This, I feel, causes great inconsistencies in my swing/game, which is my major problem. I am working on the flexibility, but am very interested in you're unconventional approach of not turning to a full 90 degrees. If I could learn to swing consistently well with less turn it would solve a lot of my problems, and I would probably drop 3-4 shots a round, putting me in the mid 70s, which is where I want to be if I'm to teach with any credibility.

    I am currently writing you from Afghanistan, but will return in a couple months to the US. I plan to buy your program, but was wondering if you also give personal lessons. I think your concept may be just what I need.

    Thanks,

    Bill
  • Joe Pepe
    Don, talking about hockey, got me remembering when I played golf down in orlando, with a canadian who held his club like a hockey stick.and he said, thats how he learned to hold the golf club , from playing hockey, so he showed me the hockey grip, and it really works, It took a while to master it, enjoying your instructions .what do you think about the hockey grip.
    one hand above the other with a space between. thanks, Joe P
  • JohnOB
    Hi Don


    Many thanks for your above response to my weight shift uncertainty. It is a great benifet to one's swing feel or movement when you know what you should be doing, rather than guessing or fiddling.

    PS> Will buy you a pint of Guinness if I bump into you in Ireland.

    JohnOB
  • Roger Faulk
    Surge I saw you on the Golf Channel a few years back and started keeping my knee's bowed out and just copied the shorter no wrist cock swing and love it. This Christmas I downloaded you series and have learned alot more. My problem is my left knee 3 surgeries and now have arthritis bad in the left knee. Can you recommend any other changes to help the pressure on the knee. The back is fine only knee problem. My handicap is 2 and distance is not the issue.
  • Rick
    I was wondering if you would notice weight transfer more when practicing by keeping the rear heel up an inch off the ground during the backswing or would this complicate things more?
  • I see now why the hips should have a limited turn.

    Is there some way to integrate the idea of the bump at the right time during the backswing with the right arm at 90 degrees?
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