Comments on: Top of Backswing…3/4…No Wrist Cock

By: Ben Shatley

Ben Shatley — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:25:56 +0000

You guys talking about the wrist cock are correct. It is commonly referred to in golf lingo as a “down-cock” and is a well-known way to generate more speed. …it is more technically an “in-cock” in that the shaft of the club gets closer to center on the downswing, which can be used to create more speed (whip) through the ball. Mr. Holmes’ grip is likely just longer on the club, a little bit more toward the palms, and a little less in the fingers than most players, which gives the appearance of less wrist cock, even though the wrists are cocking. Because of the longer grip on the club, it is more difficult to see. That longer grip creates a bigger arc, and can also help with consistency. Apart from his long grip, which gives the appearance of less wrist cock, his swing is fairly long. Daly’s swing goes back farther because he has more of a relaxed bend in his left leg, which drops his left side a little bit during the backswing, and because he has more set in his wrists, mostly due to allowing the left wrist to cup. Those two components, in my opinion, are the biggest contributors to Daly’s long swing. Daly lets that left leg bend and collapse right at the start of his swing. Daly also allows his left arm to bend, but he does that without losing too much of the pull of the clubhead and losing “connection.” When the left arm bends, it adds another lever to the swing, which can most definitly be used to generate more speed, if it is done in a way that does not “collapse” the swing at the top. I.e., there is still a healthy pull of the clubhead back around the body, so that when the body begins to turn through, the arms and club will come along with them. Doing that, however, can give you left elbow injuries, if you are not careful, and can also make solid and consistent contact a more difficult task to accomplish without a lot of practice. Other than those relatively minor differences, that I can see, the two swings are fairly similar, in terms of effective length, and shape of the arc. At least that is what I see when I compare them. Ok now you guys that don’t like me can call for me to to jump off a cliff again, if you want

By: Gaetan Desjardins

Gaetan Desjardins — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:36:47 +0000

For more details on JB Holmes’ swing, I would like to refer you to the Golf Digest, Sept. 09 edition. JB Holmes’swing sequence is fully described on page 26, by Matt Killen, JB’s swing coach.

On the second paragraph, you can read:

“He (JB) does something we don’t see from many players” says his swing coach Matt Killen. “He doesn’t cock his wrists much on the backswing. He does it during the downswing, and this creates tremendous clubhead speed because he produces so much lag and forward shaft lean before impact…”

Now if you look at every picture of JB’swing sequence, No JB does not cock his wrists in the backswing. In fact we can see just about the 135° (forearm to club angle) at the top of the backswing… so same position as at address. But as his left forearm reaches parallel on the downswing, JB is holding the club reaching 90° angle between his left forearm and club like everyone else. This is where he creates that lag everyone uses. Without that lag, considerable distance would be lost.

JB does not qualify as a pure PPGS swinger. But JB’s wrists remain nice and flat at the way and he sure have strong and fast hands.
gaetan

By: Greg Hynes

Greg Hynes — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:45:01 +0000

Surge, I have been using your golf swing tips and I am playing my best golf tee to green.

I don’t suppose you could give me some tips on putting I am currently averaging 35 putts a round.

I am playing to a 14 handicap and am 52 years old.

Thanks again

Greg.

By: Amos Terrell

Amos Terrell — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:16:32 +0000

to Mark Plunkett:

I believe that you ‘problem analysis” is correct.

Try this and see if it helps — as you finish the “up the tree” move, try to start the forward swing with a push from the region of the Big toe-Ball of foot on your trailing foot to create the “forward bump” and start the forward swing.

Keep hitting them STRAIGHT and LONG

Amos

By: Mark Plunkett

Mark Plunkett — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:47:27 +0000

Can someone help me please with a few suggestions;
After practising & hitting balls 3 times this week using the PPGS stance & 3/4 swing this week (hitting the golf ball very pure & straight) i played club compitition yeaterday & toward the end of my round my old swing & golf shots started to predominate again ie.weak fades & a real feeling of weight remaining on my Trail (back) side of my body (legs/hips/back shoulder)-it is my real swing & ball strike destroyer.
My playing partner whom plays of a 4 Hcap & is a beautiful striker of a golf ball (straight balls,smooth swing with a full T finish always balanced-he hits his Driver straight 250m plus- & ive been with him when he has driven the occassional 320m Par 4 & yes we are metric in Australia) remarked to me that i should concentrate more on increasing my swing speed NOT from the beginning of my downswing (which he says is probably causing my stayling on the Trail back foot)side) but more approaching the ball & increasing thro to the finish-so i gues this means making a smooth backswing & change into the downswing with the bump increasing swing speed pre impact thro to a face?chest on (belt buckle to target) T finish.
Is my playing partner on the right track & what would be also helpful to make me swing from the top “in sequence” as i now think my real problenm for weak fades is that i am aggressively trying to hit the shot from the top of my backswing way too early & fast with my Trail(back) hand in the downswin ie.casting??? Y/N .
Greatly appreciate any feedback as on the weekend i am playing Penants Golf (club v club) & hoping i can improve on this..