Friday, July 30, 2010

The Divot Tells All!

This past weekend was filled with a wonderful private session with a student who came in from Australia. Ah, the stories. More about that next week. But one thing popped up that I wanted to cover since, it seems, so many have had it on their mind. Divots.

Divots are like the clues they come up with on TV shows like NCSI. So simple, yet so telling when it comes to a golfer’s swing. When I walk along a practice tee at any club, it almost makes me dizzy looking at them, because I can tell what happened and where the ball (probably) went.

So I thought I would pull out my “terms and definitions” collection and give you “The divot,” so you can become your own detective and figure out what you might be doing wrong – and right. Here goes.

DIVOT: The turf removed and scar created in hitting an iron shot. A properly hit shot will produce a shallow divot with the grass torn from the ground. Swing Surgeon’s motto for divots: thin to win.
Shallow divots are preferred because:
1. They put less stress and strain on the fingers, wrist, elbow, and shoulders;
2. There is very little reduction in clubhead speed.
3. Striking the ground can cause the clubhead to be twisted, thus affecting the flight path of the ball and its direction.
Clubs that are more lofted create a steeper angle of attack and produce longer and deeper divots.
Checkpoints for deep divots:
1. Standing too close to the ball changes the angle of attack (see my definition from last week).
2. Right side dominant set up causes an outside-in path which makes for a steep angle of attack.

3. Starting the downswing with the upper body moving out over the ball and over the line makes the angle of attack steep. Start downswing with lower body and lateral left bump.
4. Clubs may be too long or lie too upright.
5. Hitting down on the ball! I believe the thought of hitting down on the ball is the number one worst enemy of every golfer and the cause of bad golf shots. Go out on the course, preferably the third shot area on a par five hole, and check out the divots. Most are big/long, deep and point 50 yards or more left of the green. Why? Because with a big turn, getting the arms and club deep in the graveyard, the only way back to the ball is around the body, (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND) outside-in, and steep. Compound this with the fact that every golfer who has ever played was told and re told to keep his head down, and to hit down, which just maximizes the problems. Hitting down is the CANCER of golf.
Try the “hit-down swing test:” Get to the top of your backswing and hold that position. Now hit down on the ball, and feel which part of your body moves first. Most golfers I have tested instantly feel the shoulders, arms and hands move first and outside.
Problem:
1. The downswing is supposed to start with the lower body, so we have a sequence problem, the wrong part of the body moving first.
2. The shoulders are pulled left which throws the arms, hands and club out to the right which is the wrong path and plane (see outside-in path, out and across).
3. When you hit down on the ball, you drive the energy into the ground. We want the energy to flow out toward the target, thus the reason for a shallow/thin divot.
4. Hitting down, colliding with the ground sends tremendous amount of shock through the club into the hands, arms and shoulders, which can lead to sore and painful joints, tendinitis and tennis/golfer’s elbow and even rotator cuff problems.
5. Hitting the ground slows up the clubhead. This loss of speed is loss of distance and can twist the clubhead off path and plane, which causes direction problems.
The answer to this is to think shallow, nip it, swing the club to bounce or ricochet off the ground. Think thin to win! Practice by nipping iron shots out of a fairway bunker or off hard ground. Many times all it takes to shallow out your divots is just a change of attitude of thinking shallow instead of hitting down.

By checking your divot, the mystery of a poorly executed shot can be easily solved.

The Surge!

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  • Thanks for sharing, please keep us posting about this info. I'd like to read it more.
  • Terry Hardy
    Do you respond to most comments. If so, where do I find your comments. I would like to see what you said to Jim Smith on 2/23/2010 concerning his outside to in swing path and diviot. I have the same problem at times and other times I seem to be leaving the club face open causing a fade with the irons and a slice with the woods.
  • Jim Smith
    Just like many others here, I have the same issue of a terrible out to in swing, causing me to lose power and slice often. When I do hit a solid shot, it tends to pull left. I can take a practice swing, even swinging full speed, and my divots will be perfect and straight at the target. However, when I get over the ball, my divot will point left severely, clearly showing the out to in swing path. Nothing I do seems to correct this issue, so more clarification on this problem would appear to be a big help for many of us.

    Thanks,

    Jim
  • David Springer
    Todays article hit the nail on the head. What you wrote about is exactly what my problem is. I'm
    swinging out side in as I can not do the ( bump) from right to left correctly before I start my down swing. What can you suggest. Starting with my weight more on the left when I start my swing or what' Please respond as it really is killing the enjoyment of playing golf.
  • BARRY WEBB
    PLEASE TELL NO BRAINERS WHAT HITING DOWN ON THE BALL IS SO WE STOP DOING IT SO WE MAKE BETTER SHOTS GRASS SEED IS CHEAP BUT LANDING IN A NO BRAINERS DIVIT COST WAY TO MUCH THE COURSE I PLAYED THIS WEEK END LOOKED LIKE SOME KID WAS WAS DOING BURN OUTS ON HIS BIKE
  • Brian Stones
    Surge, I have been playing golf for 30 years and have enjoyed the game but I have had one problem my whole time of playing that seems to ruin my game and that is hitting the hosel. It can spring up at any time and sometimes goes away for years. But now its back and I have tried everything. Got to a point where I would ground the club 2 inches inside the ball and would hit it great but that never lasts. Frustrated, Stones.
  • Phil Richardson
    Dear Surge,
    Started playing golf at about 40 and got into bad habits,club head too far behind me ,over the top downswing and a bad slice or good hit well left of target.Used incorrect methods to correct the direction of the ball and could sometimes play a course to 14 or 16.Could only do this occasionally
    when my timing was perfect and my putting was on.I had a flat round swing and tried several teaching methods to correct this including practising with my back to a wall.This worked a bit but I still came over the top in the downswing and started getting a painful back.I then bought your course and the new stance and backswing has helped my back and the tree theory has helped my backswing.My problem is and always has been the downswing and the slight forward movement of the hips as you describe it,is always described as the hardest movement in the golf swing to grasp.This move,I have been told,allows you to really come through and hit the ball hard and straight.The tree theory works quite well with my 9 iron which I can hit about 110 yards.However I can only hit my 7 about 130yards and my 4 about 150 yards.My son in law says I still have the out to in swing even when I think glove and tree and on a bad day I can slice or hook everything.After 13 years of golf I feel I'm getting worse and not better even after trying your swing method for a year.Maybe I'm too conditioned to a bad swing but would be grateful if you could advise me how to get the wright thought to make the lower body move happen first in my downswing and start hitting some solid shots.Look forward to your help Surge.
  • kenboe
    Surge , How funny I found myself hitting snow divots a few days ago. I love your teaching method. I have played on and off since I was 8. love being a student of the game. have always hit the ball far control comes and goes the way i was hitting. Look forward to playing in the spring. thank you for all of your knowledge and talent. Your method takes me back to the way I swung when I first started playing feels so free and natural answears alot of question that have ben in my mind.
  • Ken
    I really enjoy all the good feedback that we get on this website, you guys and gals have some helpful insight which provides us with good food for thought.
    I think Gustavo's comments are good because I noticed the lack of any mention about a divot on the "woods off the ground" shot.
    The one thing I take care to pay attention to which relates to the divot is to see that it begins at the front of the ball and not the rear, I learned this in an article a long time ago and have found it to be very important in order to hit accurate shots.
    I think the fact that most of us tend to hit at the rear of the ball causes the club to dig in to the ground early and then the clubface gets all distorted and then we try to blame it on other parts of the swing or set up.
    One other thing about hittng down on the ball, while I agree partly with Don's advice, I dont agree with it completely, it is obvious we are all hitting down on the ball when we are taking divots, regardless of how shallow they are, but my particluar beef is not with the full swing but rather with the shots within 60 yards of the green and closer, I have had alot of sucess hitting slightly down of the ball with these shots while I have seen others with the same shot in the same grass fail miserably and I noticed that they do not hit down but rather scoop or try to smooth the shot. It is impossible to control the spin like this, you must hit down on the ball and the club needs to strike the ground at the front of the ball. Try practicing these things and tell me if you dont see a major difference. These shots comprise a good percentage of your score so they are vey important and more so, they can physcologically destroy you after you have hit a good shot to get into position to score well on a hole and then, BAM, you chunk one and blade the next and walk away feeling like there is a knife stuck in your back and your mind is not right for the rest of the round.

    Happy Golfing
    Ken
  • Bob Kelley
    Surge,

    I guess my problem is I never take a divot unless I make a swing mistake.

    At times I have tried to take a divot and the end result was better.

    I know I should be taking a shallow divot but can't get done from my head to impact
    without causing me more problems.

    Does your system address a cure for my problem of no good divots?
  • Eric
    Surge,
    I am beyond thankful for the PPGS tips.I'm moving right along with my golf game and look
    forward to continued improvementKeep it coming!!!!!!!!!
  • Jim Wile
    To Rob Murrell:

    Isn't it interesting how your practice swings are perfect, but when the ball is there you can't stop coming over the top? I've got a buddy who does the same thing. It appears to me that he swings so much harder when the ball is there than when he is practice swinging. His timing gets completely off as he tries to muscle the ball, with his upper body out-racing his hips. This does not happen at the slower swing speed of the practice shot.

    You can either concentrate on initiating the downswing with the lower body (the "hip bump" as the Surge calls it), or you can just try swinging at the slower speed of your practice swings which seem to have the timing just right. I would suggest trying both methods and seeing which one works out better.
  • Hi Surge,
    Another weekend disaster, a Winter League passenger for my partner again on Saturday. Getting in the SBG and chopping in deep and over the top. practice with my butt against the wall is helping, but a different swing takes over during play. My back elbow tends to pull back in the takeaway dragging my hands in and putting the club way too flat. only way back is to push out over the top causing shank after shank. Any suggestions as to how to stop the pulling in of the elbow? Reached the point of packing it all in, by the way my divots are deep and go left. any help would be a godsend!
    Kind regards, Colin.
  • Gustavo Lomeli
    On your divot lesson you failed several important points:
    1. All divot are not equal: for long irons your divot starts just before the ball line
    2. For short irons, the divot starts noticeably after the ball line
    3. For fairway woods, the divot must be shallow and before the ball line
    In short, Since the divot is always the lowest point of your swing. It is pure mechanics and geometry to find it must be relatively to the ball position..
    Except in less than 100 yards shot, they could be shallow and short, but the start relatively to the ball line, varies because the stance varies at the ball.
    I have a device, patented, I would like to shaow Don/DJ.
    You are really a great golf help!
  • Lawrence Jhnson
    Surge, Thank you for most of your articals as they help with lots of golfing problems. I have two things to say first I hardly ever take a divot and usually get the shot that i am after. Second how is it that if you take a big divot then you will lose distance because of club turning, slowing down thru the ground and what not . If you hit the ball first ,like you should then the ball is long gone by the time the club is grounded. Any way keep up the good work Lawrence Johnson
  • Ian McGaughey
    Used to I would never take a divot, then I broke my wrist last spring and my divot was big enough for me to dig a ten foot ditch in ten minutes. My divot has gotten much smaller after changing my swing but it is still big. I have a natural slice that I have turned into a fade, but I cannot draw the ball to save my life. I try and try on the range but it is still a fade. Please help me out. Thanks
  • Pascual Babes Pastor
    As I mentioned before most of my bad shots are attribute to loss of focus specially keeping the left wrist from breaking or cocking at the top of my swing and weight more concentrated on my toes. These happens during syndicated play in our small club and flight which somehow put pressure for every shot. Of course I always find the problem and make the necessary correction and start hitting good shots again. Meanwhile I have to press my self to recover from lost strokes. But with all the tips you are giving and with more rounds of golf the correctr swing will soon groove itself. Thanks for the daily tips.

    Pascual
  • Raymond Graham
    Surge,

    Today's lesson on the divot tells all was right on time here in Kentucky where we had about 3 inches of snow on the ground. I went to the local public course today to work on my swing. I used the snow to tell me how I was doing. First I took my long irons out of the bag and made a mark in the snow where a ball would normally sit. I made some practice swings to see if my divot was starting at the ball mark or before the ball mark. With all of that snow I got to practice a good number of swings. After a few swings I was clipping the snow just where I had made the mark in the snow that represented a ball. My divots were shallow and straight. I then pulled a few old shag balls out of my bag and set a few on top of the snow. I hit them very nicely with my divots starting at the place the balls were and going straight forward. Well, this caused me to pull out a driver and one of my long Martini golf tees. I tee'd up several balls and did what I hadn't done all last year. I swung my driver; I wasn't trying to hit the ball, just swing it on a path that dissected the ball. Since I wasn't trying to power hit the ball like I did last year, with mixed results, I hit the ball with acceleration. The ball went much further than I thought it would go and it was straight toward the target I had selected down the fairway. I hit about seven balls like this. I miss hit 2 out of the seven but they were still in the fairway and much further than I normally would have hit them. I think by concentrating only on making a near perfect swing instead of trying to hit at a golf ball was getting much better results. Checking those snow divots helped me see that I had been coming from the outside in on my shots and that was destroying my chances of a good result. Using the snow makes a great foot print on in this case a great divot print. I think it could help all of our games.
  • Frank Jones
    To Rob,
    After years of struggle to avoid coming over the top, I discovered that hitting with my upper body from the top would open my shoulders prematurely which would naturally cause my arms to follow the shoulders. MY solution was to stay closed (shoulders ... exaggerated at first)and to stay behind the ball. One GREAT suggestion I saw on line for the driver was to put a coin a few inches behind the ball directly on the target line. Then, focus on the coin rather than the ball (which reduces the impulse to hit at the ball rather than swing through it), AND IMPORTANTLY keep your forwrd cheek BEHIND the coin until after impact. This really helped me! Good luck!
  • Frank Jones
    Ken,
    Sounds most likely that you're NOT transfering your weight to your front foot. Does your forward foot spin out toward your rear on the follow through OR do you feel like you might be starting forward but then bracing against your left (which keeps your weight back ... even though you may compensate AFTER the shot by moving your weight back to the forward foot. Solution: from ALMOST the end of your backswing, STAND on your front foot as if there is a scale under it to measure how much weight you shift to it. I was amazed at how much I suddenly got the feel of standing up like a poptart AFAP.
    Good luck!
  • Mike Callaway,

    As Jim said, moving the weight back to the heels could cause the problem. Setting the weight there at address would not cause you to move but it would cause other issues that I'm not going to get into. There are several things that can contribute to the issue.

    An outside to in swing path
    Incorrect MOI
    To much toe droop caused by to weak a shaft tip
    At set up, you reach for the ball rather than set up with arms hanging correctly.
  • ken austin
    HELP PLEASE!!! I always hit behind the ball when I tee off. I am consistantly hitting 6"-12" behind it. Of course this takes away my swing speed and I loose distance. It is not so bad with my irons, but off the tee box is killing me.
  • In most cases I do not take a divot but I will start checking when I do. Because to the weather where I live I have not been able to plan much the last couple of months..I can't wait to try out a number of your lessons - just hope I have not forgot most of them
  • Rob Murrell
    For the life of me, I cannot correct my outside-in swing. My practice swings are perfect and I have a nice shallow divot pointed straight towards my target. When I strike the ball, however, I take a deeper divot and the divot will point sometimes as much as 45 degrees to the left. When I videotape myself, I can see my left elbow fold up as I seems to stand up and pull my clubhead in towards me and to the left. I'm going to be taking a lesson with Greg McDonald in a couple of weeks and hope he can correct this. Any thoughts?
  • Jim Wile
    To Mike Callaway:

    In case the Surge doesn't answer, one thing to be aware of is the weight distribution on your feet during the swing. There is a good chance your weight is either starting on your heels or is moving back to your heels during the swing. Be very cognizant of keeping it over your arches throughout the swing. That should help return the club squarely to the ball.
  • Omar Barajas
    My biggest problem with the PPGS is consistent fat shots. The more I try to lead with the bump the further behind the ball I seem to hit. As I read causes for hitting fat shots in regards to the conventional swing one of the causes is to vertical a back swing. Please advise.
  • Mike Callaway
    Surge

    I am a member of your "Inner Circle" and I love what you are teaching and your method of teaching. I am 68 years old, been playing golf for 60 years, handicap at one time was a 1 now a 9 basically due to health issues, 2 back surgeries, right knee replacement and spinal neck surgery, but I still have a passion for this wonderful game and I want to improve. My problem is that I constantly hit the ball on the toe of my irons. I have been recently fitted by a 25 year fitting expert with new clubs, graphite shafts and shorter in length, The lie has been set at 2 degrees upright but I am still hitting the ball of the toe as evidence by impact tape that I have used on the irons to let me know where I am hitting the ball. I have tried to move closer to the ball and even placing the ball in the hosel to try and get closer to the center of the face of the iron. I would very much appreciate your comment on what might be causing this toe hit problem.

    Thanks for your help and suggestions

    Best wishes

    Mike Callaway
  • Bob Domain
    Speaking of divots, my fairway woods divots startas much as four inches behind the ball, divot is very shallow (brushing the grass) and is very much inside out.
  • Tom Trull
    Hey Surge, John Cook sure looked "Vertical" today.
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