Friday, July 30, 2010

Swing Improvement Defined

I got a call yesterday evening from one of my long time local students, JM, who was snowed in with no power and wanted to talk golf. Cell phones are great, even with no electricity, until the battery runs out. Anyway, we got to talk long enough to give me the topic for today’s article.

JM began talking about a young lady he met at the course who has been asking him advice about the swing and the game in general. She has been playing a year or so and is really into golf big time. JM said her trunk looks like mine…full of golf clubs, multiple pairs of shoes and other golf related things. Mine also always has my video camera and tripod tucked in the back corner.

This young golf devoted lady has been quite receptive to JM’s swing tips on the limited turn, ¾ vertical PPGS. She has been doing quite well but concerned about hanging some shots right a little. But like most golfers, though she was swinging well, she wanted more and better. So, she went back and took a lesson from her old instructor.

She told JM that in the warm-up she was swinging the PPGS. The first words out of the instructor’s mouth were, “Why are you turning so little and swinging so vertical in your backswing and finishing at your target?” She was immediately told that she needed to start making a full hip and shoulder turn and get on plane and to especially turn and pull through impact finishing left of her target. She obeyed for the rest of lesson.

She called JM to ask some advice as she was in a quandary as to what to do. After the lesson her ball striking was decidedly less solid and her shots much more inconsistent in direction and distance. JM recommended that she go to PPGS.com and start checking things out. He told her that she had to make up her mind as to which swing she was going to use, commit to it and stick with it. Naturally he was lobbying for her to choose the PPGS. He told her that if she didn’t, he could no longer help her because her instructor was teaching her the same swing he learned that ruined his swing and his back and that he was not going to deal with that anymore.

JM went on to say that she was really hitting it pretty good except for the occasional blocks to the right. She was pretty well pleased with the vertical swing but was still not scoring as well as she would have liked to. That was why she returned to her instructor for the lesson. JM asked me how I handled a situation like that. How does one gauge improvement and are they getting better? Great Question!

The answer is important and simple. Scoring is PLAYING GOLF…GETTING THE BALL INTO THE HOLE. Taking lessons and working on your swing is SWING IMPROVEMENT, not PLAYING and scoring lower. These are two completely separate parts of the game. Worrying about the score your shooting while working on swing changes and you have a recipe for disappointment and disaster.

The real score to keep when working on swing changes and you take your swing to the course is not the number of shots you take per hole. Heck, I have taken students on the course after a lesson and seen them hit the ball so good they were amazed. They were also so excited that they paid little to no attention to chipping and putting and were careless around and on the greens. They were cranking up the strokes, and yet still counting them and writing them down on the scorecard. Their focus and attention was getting to the next hole to make a good swing and hit another good shot. They were playing in a swing practice frame of mind. They counted score but were not playing in a scoring frame of mind. The result: piling on strokes around the green and shooting their old lousy score or even higher. When they saw that “Sorry Score,” they were frustrated and depressed and lost all reality of how well they were really swinging and hitting the ball. That is not good and is a big cause of slowing down swing improvement.

The answer is the score you want to keep is determined with asking yourself two questions. 1. Am I swinging better doing what I am working on and am I HITTING MORE GOOD TO BETTER SHOTS? 2. Am I hitting LESS BAD SHOTS and ARE THEY LESS BAD?

When working on swing changes improvement is not about the total shots taken score, but rather the number of good and better shots and the less bad shots score. It is about learning and mastering the swing adjustments you are working on. The score card should reflect the number of good swings and good shots over bad. That reflects positive Swing Improvement. And do not forget that less bad shots and their being “less bad” is improvement. Counting total strokes comes after the swing is grooved and you can concentrate more on scoring.

After all, remember that one of my playing ‘Surgisms” is, “Golf is a game of misses. He or she who misses best…wins.”

The Surge!

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  • André Juneau
    To NinerMike

    You are a wonderful human being. I read all your informations you addressed to some people and in the same time your answered to some questions I had. You touch my soul. Your generosity for that ¨Inner Circle¨ is great and helpful. I don't know you but I deeply feel you are a very special person. I am grateful for your participation to that blog. Thanks again to be there. I wish you and your family a lot of abundance in your life. Perhaps, a day, I will have a privilege to meet you personally.

    A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
  • Randy
    To NinerMike:

    You nailed my problem dead on the head. Took your advice to the range today & found you were right I was dropping the right shoulder ever so slightly & causing the clubhead to be slightly open at impact. When I kept my right shoulder high with the thought of swinging my arms to a high T finish I absolutely hit it dead solid perfect and with so little effort compared to my rotational swing. That's such a subtle thing I probably would have struggled for a long time trying to figure it out. My teaching pro was amazed. He teaches the rotational swing but after watching me today he said he's going to research the Surges PPGS.

    This is a great message board.

    Thanks NinerMike & Merry Christmas to You & Yours!
  • Ron
    Actually it should be "fewer bad shots" not "less bad shots".
  • Jim Benjamin
    To Charles Wilson. If you're hitting the ball on the toe try standing closer to the ball at address. Many times when your swing plane improves your down swing starts down on a better plane than before, usually with your arms closer to your body, so you approach the ball more from the inside rather than the outside which is over the top. I know this has helped me when I hit the ball in the toe.
  • Amos Terrell
    To Jim:


    I agree with you -- Charles Barkley retired from basketball because of a bad back.

    His "pre-Haney" swing was an "upright vertical rotatry" swing. I am convinced the "hitch" came about because of back pain.

    A proper PPGS limited turn, 3/4 vertucal backswing would be MUCH better for him.


    Good Golfing

    Amos
  • Timsolo
    After a long lay off of regular golf (2.5 years) I had some heart break stuff that I had to come to terms with.The mid 70's shooting was history and trying to hang onto a sleeve of balls for the round would have been nice .All those little automatic swing idiosyncrasies that are there with regular play ........gone.Desperate, seeked some coaching with initial success....but ...while trying to groove those new moves (single plane swing) posture position like most pro's I was led to beleived. Bang- back pain from golf, for the first time I could not beleive this ,so had a few days off days from hitting the buckets of balls . Back to the regime sure enough another flare up with back just when the mid 70's shooting has arrived with the new swing. I am no gym freak but fairly fit at 40 this proved to me if you want those nice tour like swings you better have the physio back up because the list of tour players with back problems is as long as your arm (Seve,Couples,Trevino, to name some major winners) .The PPGS system was for food for thought 3/4 pain free swing (mentioned in the 10 free video lessons) . After the first bucket to groove the upright swing no loss in distance ?????(so much for the X factor) it was an hour later after hitting all sorts of shots mainly iron shots that the misses were less damaging all the way round I especially liked the feel of the swing with the wedges .I can see why D J is up there with driver stats easier to sync the arms and legs .One last thing learnt the hard way was playing with forged irons ,I always hit my 5 iron fairly good the others ok.....after a lot of ball bashing the status quo did not vary much I am talking mainly direction.Had the clubs checked by a decent clubfitter
    .Enlightment the 5 iron 3deg upright ( I am 6' 3") some clubs 1deg upright ,the 9iron standard not good for consistancy ,had them all bent to 3deg upright .Golf can be a real juggle get the swing right then you have the kit righted too.I don't beleive many of us regular guys get this sorted at the same time and end up in the never ending story.
    Tried the PPGS for nine holes a few weeks ago level par (forward tee's ),looking forward to new season , many thanks Surge for basic explanation and pain free golf.
  • Mike Haider
    My question relates to finishing facing the target. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. When I finish why weight is always on my right foot and sometimes my left foot is even off the ground.. If I focus mainly on placing my weight on my left foot before I swing, then my swing is all screwed up. what can I do?
  • Per Bergqvist
    Hi Don!

    Congratulations on Your 60 birth day (Mentioned by DJ on the Driver DVD) and thank You very much for the new Driver DVD.

    I have used your swing for half a year (When I started with golf) and it going better and better.

    I have been asking You for more info about how to use PPGS with the driver and think I was not the only one - result You gave us the DVD!

    The first thing on the DVD that went really clear for me was the wrist cocking.
    I will see the DVD many times and their will come more things......

    Now I am looking for the same thing for the Fairway woods (3, 5 and 7) and for the Utility Clubs (19, 22, 25 and 28) and please also include info about when to use the Fairway woods and Utility Clubs.

    Best Regards

    Per
  • Gerry,
    A draw or a pull? A draw starts right and then curves left. If the ball starts to the left of target line and goes further left, you're pulling the ball which is a result usually of "coming over the top" and hitting with a closed club face. Make sure that your club is going toward your targert all the way through the swing and then finished in the T postion which is high over the shoulders. I'd almost be willing to bet that your follow through is somewhat around you and low. Also, remember to start the down swing with the slight bump forward of the left hip. If you are starting down with the upper body first chances are that the shoulders turn past the hips and the result is a pull also. Hope this helps.
  • To Harry,
    As a master fitter/builder, I have done some complete sets of hybrids for individuals but it was more for helping hit the ball higher and it was easier for them to hit hybrids than irons. If your swing speed is low enough that the ball does not have a high flight, then replacing the irons with hybrids would be a good idea. You may not want to go all the way to the wedges as it's difficult to have a finese' game trying to chip or pitch from the deep rough with a hybrid.

    As to your reason for going to hybrids, pain, the solution is graphite shafts and shock absorbing grips such as Winn. So, if you still hit the irons well you may want to consider irons with graphite shafts. Hybrids with graphite are not any better than irons with graphite as far as pain reduction.
  • jimsha
    To Hank,

    Excellent point on the position of the wrists. I feel that way too few people pay attention to this necessary component of the golf swing. When you cup your wrists in the back swing you all but end any chance of keeping or even getting the club on plane. Part of the problem with cupping is the position of the right hand on the club at address. When the hand is placed to far under when gripping there tends to be a folding in of the wrist during the backswing, thus forcing the clubhead off plane. You referenced Ben hogan as a help to you. I looked to Bobby Jones' hand placement as a tremendous help for myself. If you look at his grip you will see a normal placement of the left hand with the right as far up on top as any golfer I have ever seen. I tried this even going a little further,(almost to the point of feeling somewhat awkward), but the results were dramatic. this position actually forced my wrist to hinge and not cup at all allowing for a free flowing, unforced, swing with little if any deviation from swing plane. So my suggestion here is to first pay attention to if one is cupping on the backswing, and if so get the right hand up on top as far as you can.

    p.s. - Bought the collectors edition of Bobby Jones' instructional video set. A little pricey but worth every penny. As far as i'm concerned one of the best ever to play the game.
  • To Randy:

    Without seeing the swing and based on the information given, shot going right with no curvature, I'd suggest looking at ball position first. It may be just a tad too far back in the stance. The best way to have this checked is to have someone else look at you at address. Generally, it is more difficult for us to accurately check as it looks right to us to begin with. It would seem to me that the club head is still open at impact. Moving the ball slightly forward could be the answer. If this does not work, check the rotation of right forearm. Going from a rotational swing to the PPGS could require a bit of different timing. Hope this helps.
  • Gerry Roelants
    I have an observation regarding my swing experiences. I'm currently 75 years old and carry a 12 handicap and I've always been an "arm and hands" player and therefore prone to hitting it short, high and right. In an attempt to overcome those shots, an 'over the top' compensatory swing crept into my game. Part of the problem was taking the club back too far inside in an attempt to swing inside out and getting trapped with no way of getting back to the ball without an over the top move. Well, recently I've attempted the PPGS swing, and while taking the club more straight back and "up the tree", coming down and through has resulted in straight, solid shots with a draw, but.....dead left by 20-30 yards. I like the trajectory and the extra distance, but flirting with OB left off the tee and/or missing the green long left, my game has not improved at all. If I concentrate on initiating the swing with my left shoulde, I hit it left..if I concentrate on my arms and hands...I hit it right. And I can't seem to get my upper and lower body in sinc. Anyone else having these problems? Any thoughts?
  • Randy
    I'm a righty with a 6 handicap. The PPGS causes me to hit the ball straight right (no draw / no fade). Although I'm very flexible and play with the rotational swing I'm trying to convert because I believe the rotational swing is causing me some physical problems. Sore back & knees after play. I love the game and don't want to hurt myself. That's why I practicing the PPGS. It's painless and I have no soreness after a driving range session. But I keep hitting it right.

    What could be causing that? Can you give me some ideas to work on?
  • harry clarke
    i am 64 years old and took up golf 8 mos. ago.have had a lot of hand, forearm, and shoulder pain. what do you think of a complete set of hybrid clubs as a possible solution? have you other suggestions?
  • HARRY THOMSON
    QUITE SIMPLY THE ANSWER IS " WHEN YOU HAVE THE URGE " CONTACT THE SURGE"

    GREAR STUFF YOU ARE PUTTING OUT THERE FOR ALL GOLFERS NO MATTER WHAT THE HANDICAP OR AGE.

    YOUR THE MAN SURGE.
  • Ray Baldwin
    Andre: I too had that problem for a while, and after repeated reading the manual and watching the swing videos a light went off and I figured it out. When the surge said to take it back to the catchers mitt part I was watching myself in the mirror and sure enough I was out of position. I practiced in front of that mirror until when the club was at nine o'clock and parallel to the ground and over the toe line before I took it up the tree. When I achieved that feel I finally started to come back square to the ball and my hits went straighter from then on. Hope this will help. Good luck.
  • Hank
    To Frank Jones,

    I had the same problem as you until I read an old Hogan book which said to keep your wrist flat . I was starting flat but cupping it on the back swing. This opened the face as I did not correct on the down swing. Since following that advice, if anything I draw the ball. I'm very intrigued by Don's program and plan to get it to further improve.
  • Frank jones
    TO ANDRE:
    I am not a pro, but, if you are blocking the ball to the right, your swing is INSIDE to OUT! The ball starting right indicates your swing path. If the ball then curves right in flight, your clubface is open relative to your swingpath. If you want to start right and draw, your clubface needs to be closed RELATIVE to your inside out swing path!

    My problem is being unable to close the clubface without radically closing the face at address. I think THIS is the professional secret, but I don't think anyone understands how to teach it. I have asked so many good players to share the feeling or the mechanics without satisfaction!
  • Vic Youngberg
    Surge,

    Are you going to advertising any of your golf schools on this site. I would really be interested in attending one. I have your material and love the swing but I only got to play with it once before winter hit here in Chicago. I'm now currently hitting in a dome once a week but it's really great to have that one on one coaching.

    Thanks,

    Vic Youngberg
  • Jim
    I really would have rather seen Charles Barley go to you than the big name guru that made so may episodes out of his failure to teach Charles. Charles is messed up for sure but the instruction he was getting was really painful to watch. Don, I know you see it too.
  • Thanks for putting out such a great effort to help everyone with your knowledge of the swing. I am a former NFL player who has played in hundreds of charity tournaments with guys like Gary Player,
    Fuzzy Zoeller, Joe Namath ( my old teammate) Don Maynard, Chipper Jones, and many others. Our team made it to the Super Bowl of Golf at La Costa in 2007. I've never really taken lessons because I thought I could figure out the swing by just being an athlete. Your instruction has really helped me think about the right things, particularly those that help those in their 60"s. There are so many 'seems as if' in golf that in reality are the opposite. You seem to have worked all of those issues out and are a great communicator. Most importantly your were willing to sow some seeds before asking for money which puts you in a class all by yourself. Way to go and thanks!
  • Brett Rice
    I bought the PPGS videos three days ago and I just can't believe the difference in my swing. I'm 6' 5" and have always been told at my height should be bombing them down the fairway. To put it simple... I sucked. Yesterday I took my 56 degree wedge out and hit 9 balls. Before PPGS I might hit that club 75 to 80 yards and all over the place. Now I hit it consistantly 120 yards and within ten feet of my target right or left. I can't wait To take my new swing to the driving range and to the course. My putting game has always been well above average (90 % within 15 feet)but every other club in my bag has been a severe curse to my game. If things go as I expect this may be the greatest thing to ever happen to me. Thanks Don.

    Brett Rice
  • Andre Lajoie
    Hi Surge........

    I've been using the PPGS all summer now winter has sent in and I still have problems of swinging outside ti inside causeing blocked shots to the right PW is okay but the higher the club the more right i go especially the driver.........Help me please.
  • Bob Pegram
    Sometimes when hitting the ball a lot farther that can cause a temporary increase in scores because you are hitting clubs into the green that you are not used to. It can change the strategy to use on the hole as well as requiring more practice with the clubs you are now hitting much more frequently.

    Until you change the strategy and get used to the shorter clubs, scores won't drop and can temporarily go up.
  • Pamela
    Hey Surge,

    I am a teaching professional in Florida. I ALWAYS want to hear and read other swing philosophies. It is my belief that no one with 2 ozs. of brains should ever stop learning and listening no matter what the discipline is! You and I are on the same page with nearly everything. I have been the recipent of students with the "tradtional' swing doctrines and clearly, the failure rate is astronomical! MMMMM? Hell, why should that be? Simple, the 'traditional' is frought with faulty premises and my 65 year old retired, out of shape CPA isn't capable of the same things as my 13 year old junior! Anyway, I enjoy hearing what you have to say. Keep up the great work. Students wishing for an improved swing aren't the only ones who respect what you have to say. Pam
  • Wayne Stewart
    Hi Surge

    Recently joined your team but up here in wonderful Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, we are well past golf course time.

    Thus went to the closest golf dome to hit some balls.

    What you are teaching seems great although I certainly don't have it mastered yet. (Hit 4 buckets yesterday) No back pain. That is good.

    My problem seems to be the turn, follow through and getting my body to face where I want to hit the ball. Seems I am constantly hitting the ball right and I am sure it has to do with my inability to swing down and through the ball.

    I have had orthroscopic surgery on both knees and possibly that is playing in my mind.

    Do you have any drills that a person can do at home in the winter to help in this regard.

    I am 65 yrs. young and have been golfing about 8-9 years. Currently scoring in the mid 90's. Golf is now becoming somewhat of a passion so hope to get many more years into it.

    Would appreciate any comments you may have.

    Regards

    Wayne Stewart
  • Jim Miller
    I don't understand the take away---I have had a good follow through but when I use the striagth up approach I don't quit understand the no/limit turn nor the down swing
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