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I save comments and questions I read in the blogs to use later for the daily article. John OB wrote some good comments about forever being on the golf swing treadmill of tinkering and experimenting. But I really saved his comment because of the mental visualization concept he saw and applied it to the golf swing.
Mental visualization is ultimately one of the main ways to build your golf swing and then repeat it time and again. I teach and preach that you have to understand mentally the swing concepts first and foremost to be able to produce a golf swing. This is because the mind triggers the muscles to move to perform any body movement. When you intellectually understand what has to happen and why, your brain then can trigger the appropriate muscles into action and in the correct action movements and sequences. You see, it is mental memory that makes golf swings, not muscle memory as many believe.
So, I believe and do so in my own mind in making up mental images that create the muscle movements I must have to make the PPG setup and swing. A point I must emphasize here is that sometimes these images and movements may be over exaggerations to create the swing movements I want. An example is that to swing vertical, in my mind’s eye I feel like my arms, from the takeaway to the top of the backswing and then to the finish, swing straight up and down like a Ferris wheel. Or the same as standing erect and swinging a club with one hand straight up and down in a circle.
I know I am not swinging 100 percent straight up and down, but the visualization helps create the feelings to swing on my maximum vertical inclined plane with all the clubs. And as we know, visualization of the shot is important because all the sports psychologists teach and emphasize it. I believe visualization of the swing, even exaggerated, is absolutely necessary to build your swing in your mind so your mind can trigger your muscles to repeat the swing time after time.
So, with importance of visualization briefly covered, let’s look at what John OB came up with for his swing visualization.
JohnOB says:
I am 74 and have played about four or five rounds of golf in the past four or so years. 18 handicap then. Got overweight from 175 to 210 lbs, resulting in a loss of agility and stamina. I was forever tinkering with my swing, and rarely played two consecutive rounds with the same swing thoughts in about thirty years as a weekend golfer.
I still enjoy watching the game on TV, and visit the driving range from time to time when the golf bug strikes, or when I THINK I see some move that I have not tried before in the past thirty years (not many). I also enjoy reading the comments on this site, and feel that if I had those PPGS DVD’s and video’s 20 or so years ago I might have stopped all the fiddling around with my golf swing. I particularly like the comments “Swing the Club Head” I read earlier on this site, and other interesting questions and remarks.
To link the concept “Swing The Club Head” and the Surge’s PPGS where he advocates swinging “up the tree” to the twelve o’clock position without cocking or breaking the wrists on the backswing, and his “up the tree” to a T finish in the forward swing, I THINK I have stumbled on a great mental image or vision that would assist in doing just that.
While reading the comments on this site a few nights ago, and glancing at the TV at the same time, a picture appeared on screen where a young man was guiding his son backwards and forwards (or up and down) on a larger than usual garden swing.. This movement was so rhythmic, smooth and graceful it struck me that it could be a useful mental image in practicing the concept “Swing the Club Head”.
Now I’m not suggesting for a minute that one tries tying his fifteen month old to the club head in order to improve their golf swing (Never), but the mental image could still be applied something like this:
Visualize having him sit facing you on the club head holding on to the club shaft, and swinging him back and up the tree using centrifugal force (to help him hold on) to the twelve o’clock position without cocking or breaking the wrists. Be aware what might happen if you did cock or break your wrists, he would probably fall down on your head. NOT GOOD.
Now in the down and or forward swing imagine accelerating him through and after impact “up the tree” to the T position, forcing him to loose his grip, and landing on a branch about eighteen feet up.
PS. In order to increase distance, try landing him ten feet or so higher up. What do you think?
The Surge says:
I like the child on a swing image a lot. It certainly clearly shows the concept of up in the backswing, down in the transition of the forward upswing and then up to the T- Finish clearly and succinctly. It also shows that although the swing is closer to an oval, the image of the child on a swing is closer to a circle. I believe visualizing a circle creates the sense and feel that really better fits and emphasizes the PPGS concepts of lifting the club in the backswing and swinging up to the T- Finish.
I Thank John for passing on his imagination and visualization concept of the child on the garden swing. I am sure a lot of our swings will benefit from using this image.
The Surge!
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I sit here and read your daily information and never respond. Your posting from John OB, a 74 year-old who plays golf about as often as me(I am 78) moves me to respond, just to say “thank you.” I’m really glad to be on your mailing list, even though I don’t usually respond.
Surge,
Do you also recommend to cut down 3 and 5 wood if one is having problem hitting them right?
The tip you published recently about right hand low is the best I have ever tried.I am 76 and therefore need to improve my ball striking if I want to break 100 on a championship course I had never heard this tip before,but it works.Last week I shot 94 in the cold of Springfield,Mass
A mental image of your swing is great during practice. However, it is more important to have an image of the shot, to play your best golf.
Your brain is better than a super computer. If you feed it images of what you want the result to be your brain will make all the corrections necessary for you to make a swing that will produce that outcome. The best players in the world don’t work on images of the perfect golf swing, they work on images of the perfect shot and let the mind produce the swing. http://www.aboutjuniorgolf.com
A great series of instruction. I got interested in your system because I have a herniated spine(slipped disc)
Strangely, years ago I used to swing very much like your system but I was coached to change to what is regarded as the norm(rounded). Since that time I have had a lot of back injuries and feared I would have to at long last quit the game and in fact have played very little recently.
Having said that,I have been to the driving rangethe past couple of weeks and really enjoyed hitting balls again-without any pain or afteraffects whatsoever-fantastic.Thanks a million Don.
Surge,
I’m so used to moving my lower body (legs and hip turn) from my past swings that I find it difficult to keep this area still. Do you have any tips? I find myself digging huge divots lately – what is a good exercise to keep my lower body quiter?
I could use a few diagrams along with written text. Have incorporated some of the lessons and have seen some improvement,now if you could keep me planted,I think I could improve even faster.
Let’s take a hypothetical situation, and liken it to the game of golf:-
You have a nice house with a great big front garden, one big lawn. At first, through sheer neglect, the odd useless items begin to collect; you don’t suspect the importance of picking them up. After a bit the presence of these items seems, kind of magically, to attract more of a similar nature. You notice more people seem to frequent your area, but still you don’t associate that with the fact that the stuff is beginning to obscure the lawn. You get used to it; huh, it can’t all get there for no good reason, so you begin to sift through it to see what can be made use of. The strange thing is that, despite the great variety of stuff, none of it seems eventually to be the benefit it promised at first sight; but still you try, because, as yet, you did not correctly “diagnose” the situation.
Unfortunately this is what has happened to our beloved game. There are absolute mounds of theories out there that look fine; with all sorts of diagrams and ideas – “….yes I can see the wisdom of that….”, you say, “I’ll give that one a go….” Lots of it cannot possibly work; maybe none of it…………..; how are you going to tell ?
Firstly; you CAN learn to play golf well enough, with the application of common sense, and a common sense approach, WITHOUT SHELLING OUT A CENT ! BUT if you want to know how to protect yourself against a veritable avalanche of nonsensical tripe that proliferates the internet and anywhere else there is room then I can tell you, and am willing to tell you, for absolutely nothing.
There are a couple of publications, made quite a few years ago now, that explain how to tell the correct way of it. I AM NOT selling them, ALL I can do is give you some details and you can do the rest. There is one PARADOXICAL snag; in spite of the accurate nature of the material I am referring you to, it has become so rare that it will likely cost quite a lot to get hold of, IE if you want to consult the original material.
I can prepare some simple explanations base on that; ALL YOU HAVE to do is contact me:-
roger.hamilton3@btopenworld.com
I am nearly 70 now and haven’t played golf in a very long time; I HAVE no interest in your money.
Well, you’ve heard things like that before; so…………………………………………………..?
I have always tended to fade the ball until trying the Peak Performance swing. I’ve only played one round using the swing but am drawing the ball, and some of the time producing a duck hook. I’m also hitting more shots than normal fat, which leads me to believe I’m doing something wrong. Do you have any suggestions as to how to correct over hooking and hitting the ball fat other than more time and practice with the swing?
Thanks
hello Don,
J’ai des dfficultées de compréhension en raison des termes spécifiques utilisés ou traduits textuellement en Français sans traduction intelligente dans notre langue.
Pouvez-vous trouver un traducteur pour que vos leçons soient lisibles et complètement comprises en Français. De plus vos vidéos ne servent à rien en raison du manque de traduction en Français.
I don’t understand veru mutch, english or américan to learn about yours lessons on video speaking. I’am sorry really.
Your CD lessons VIDEO are they speaking in good french?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.MERCI POUR VOTRE REPONSE.
YVON.
Surge,
I wrote in a couple of months ago, about changing from rotational swing to the vertical swing. I’m now a member of Inner Forum, which I consider a must for those of us who cannot play or practice on a regular basis.
Today’s tip on “Visualization” which follows your comments on “Alignment” have caused me to Chime in.
I have recently had a breakthrough on the PPGS vertical swing, and after suffering through the growing pains of transistioning from rotational to the vertical PPGS swing.
First, your suggestions for proper alignment are pretty clear and self explanatory. However, each of our “visualizations” of our attempts at perfecting the PPGS vertical swing. We have now hit upon what I consider the cornerstone of the PPGS method.
I have read many golfers questioning various parts of the swing and methodologies, but in reality I believer their problems stem primarily from their “visualizations” of what is actually supposed to happen throughout the entire swing.
While alignment is one of the most critical pieces of the swing, it won’t matter if you don’t have a good “visualization” of the Stance, Takeaway and T Finish.
Now to my breakthrough. In spite of the fact that I had a good stance, grip and swing, I was still hitting big slices and “chunking” middle irons. Like many other members, my short game was pretty good. So, what as missing?????
As weird as it may sound, my visualization of “WHERE THE CATCHER’S MITT WAS” undoing my entire swing. In my efforts to work the one piece take away, climb the tree, and limit the swing to 3/4 I was missing a critical point. I had visually pictured the Catcher’s Mitt too far behind the toe line. My arms appeared to be in line, but in fact, I had visualized the Mitt slightly behind the toe line. As the Surge already knows, I was in the Sacred Burial Ground without even knowing it.
Once I visualized the Catcher’s Mitt in front of the toe line, both on the takeaway, and T-Finish, “magic” started to happen. Everything from the short irons throught the driver were straight and I lost little if any distance.
One word of advice! Be careful not to “push” your club head into the Mitt with your leading arm. Instead, remember to “pass the tray of champagne”.
So, I think the comments on “Mental Visualization” are a vital part of success in the PPGS system.
Mike (Tin Cup49)
You may well find what I’d like to say next pretty well impossible to believe.
Such is the persuasive nature of much that has been published as “golf instruction”, or maybe just “wise commentary”, that even famous professionals have made reference to it.
Huh, you say; well how did they stay successful, if they accepted this “nonsense” ? THAT you will just have to contemplate yourself.
Here is a simple example:-
Henry Cotton annotated a photo of himself, where the golf club, in mid swing, showed a pronounced bend in it, saying, “…The club shaft fairly helped me with this shot…” – or words to that effect. There are 3 separate reasons [ correct scientific analysis shows ], each one conclusive in its own right, WHY the clubshaft could not have done what he claimed. At least one of these is obvious, with a little thought.
Another:-
Ben Hogan stated that on the backswing the line traversed by the clubhead is in line with the eventual intended shot, and on the downswing is “inside” the line, ie at a slight angle across the ball, from left to right, if you were to observe this “phenomenon” from behind. Common sense tells you that, since you are, in effect, pivoting around a “fixed” point, it is IMPOSSIBLE, to have the club traverse a straight line on the backswing, as he described it. THE SIMPLE FACT is, he, ie Ben Hogan, had it the WRONG WAY ROUND !
Another, less insidious:-
A famous “professionals” instructor, ie John Jacobs, used to repeat that you should “…move your hips out of the way, to let the arms do the work…” Well, such is the nature of that instruction, it may well seem to be the answer; there is no obvious reason why it shouldn’t work. The simple fact, again reasoned through the analysis of correctly applied science, is that it is in fact THE HIPS that do the work, and for a very simple, if not easily observable reason, ie to the layman. Let’s just allude to it under the heading centrifugal force; rather than go into detail that most likely won’t do much good, under the circumstances, shall we say.
Last one, but far from the least annoying:-
It’s common in golf commentary to hear the “guru” of the moment say, in casual remark about a professional about to make a short iron shot [ the shorter the more predictable ] that it is just an “hands and arms shot”. Now, without any reference to the benefits of scientific analysis, just think about it. Imagine you were in a barrel of hardened cement, up to your chest. Someone gives you a club and says, go on hit that ball……………….well….see the point ?
You know what they say about “…all that glitters….”
Surge,
My Questions of the day to you is this. When I reach the peak of my back swing, How can I break an old habit of wanting to rotate the right hand over the left two quickly thus causing the club face to close down and not make solid contact. I have a weak left wrist from injury. Do I just need to slow down my downward swing so my timing remains consistent?
Thanks
P.S. I enjoy your daily topics, keep the e-mails coming.
It had been suggested by some in this forum to read Ernest Jones “Swing the clubhead method”, so I did. It was like explaining rocket science to a 5 year old, and the kid getting it! Todays golf instruction can get so complicated, needless to say mind-bobbling. This book was a revelation to me in as much as I learned I was a huge leverage man. Once one senses and feels the clubhead through the stroke of a true swing then one has the foundation in which to build upon to be a good, if not great, golfer. Clearly, Dons system of PPGS has much merit. But unless we first first learn to SWING the clubhead and FEEL its presence throughout that swing, we may be doomed to repeating the same old mistakes time and time again.
So, if you are struggling out there, even with Dons system, RUN out and get a copy of that book and read it carefully. Like me, you will be happy you did!!!
I have the same problem that Clark Kent has. On the downswing, my right arm overpowers the left and I tend to close the club face. Before I started using the PPGS vertical swing I tried to overcome the problem by putting extra rotation of my left hand over my right hand during the backswing.
What are your thoughts on club shaft TRUEing?
In reference to your articles on shortening the length of the driver shaft to 43-1/2′ to increase shot accuracy and consistency, can the same swing results be achieved by simply choking down on the club?
Thanks for your valuable information.
Moe Norman used this same image to describe the swinging motion of the clubhead. He said imagine pushing a child in a swing..you don’t twist the ropes.
Don,
I bought your videos on Saturday and watched them on Sunday. It was rainy here in middle Georgia and my indoor practice with your procedures put some of my wife’s priceless heirlooms in harms way, but I practiced a bit anyway. Today I went to a local driving range and was amazed with the “no brainer” aspect of your methods. I’ve taken lessons from two pros and felt so confused with both of their analogies that I could scream. The “catcher’s mitt” and “up the tree” really made sense to me, albeit very different to what I’ve read and practiced. Now I can get up to the tee and have much less to contemplate!!! The amount of stress that this relives is indescribable. I’m playing golf with my wife on Thanksgiving Day, so I’ll keep this post informed. Maybe there’s hope for this 22 handicapper yet. I’m 54 years old and in pretty good shape. I think your techniques will keep me that way. Thanks in advance.
Davis
Hey Don:Enjoy reading your site ,especially the answers from your readers .I ‘m a very new to golf so alot of the terminology i dont quite understand.I understand your trying to help everyone but some of your last posts ,i was lost after the first sentence or two.In your mind as you type it makes perfect sense and you follow along ,in my mind I get confused and lost .Maybe this site is to advanced for me.I was wondering tough if you swing a weight on a string how is it possible to have an oval path????your last post says the swing path is oval.in my mind the only way this is possible is if you move your body and arms.my interpretation of your lessons is not to move the body just the arms .pls help im confused
Great thoughts.
I think of this. Once I am up the tree my minds eye sees that I go straight back down the tree and Pop up to a tee finish like toast popping up from a toaster. I picture my swing as a bid U shape swing. I know it is not really a U but my minds eye thinks it is.
Yikes, now I know why golfers will buy or try just about anything. John OB is on to something that is for sure…or is he on something that is for sure? The main thing is that he believes in what he is doing and that can be a tremendous advantage over those with doubts about what they are doing.
I didn’t agree with your statement that the swing is mental memory, not muscle memory; until I reread the article. I guess you are right, before your muscles can fire there has to be an impulse sent from the brain. If the ‘memory’ of a good swing can produce the proper sequencing of muscle movements then why dont’ we just put the swing of our favorite Professional golfer in our heads and head out to the course?
Is there anyone on either tour that uses the PPGS methods besides DJ? We dont’ get to see him much on the weekend telecasts but I do know has had a successful season, kept his card, and will be back next year.
I would love to hear more on self diagnosis of particular golf swing faults and what the consequences are. For example, if you start with poor posture, to tall or to bent over, what are the usual consequences.
Love the daily read.
Chuck
Chuck,
I believe tht Steve Stricker’s “new swing” is similar to PPGS — not the same, but close. It is certainly a liimited turn, vertical swing
Best regards
Amos
To Walter Joo,
You ask if you are having a problem hitting your 3 and 5 woods is to cut them down. I would first suggest going to a club fitter and getting the shaft flex checked on them as that could be the problem. If the flex is wrong the shafts can be changed. If they are OK, then the length could be an issue and again the club fitter can help you determine that.
For a quick check to see if the length is the problem, just hit both and coke down on the club 1/2 inch, the 1 inch or more and if the ball striking improves you have a good idea that they are too long.
The Surge!
Jim,
I like your visualization of the U in the swing. The up in the backswing and forward swing is not free as it is against gravity. So any visualization that aids swinging up is good,’
The Surge!
On visualization–what the researchers tell us:
There are two aspects to visualization, and both are important to learning sports technique. One is to be able to visualize the written or oral instruction being given to you. Different words mean different things to people, like the “Can you stick out your tongue and touch your nose?” example. If an instructor asks, “What do you think I mean when I say XXXX?”, you get different answers.
The other visualization is a holistic image of the intended motion. Experts tell us that being able to visualize the intended motion helps us smooth out the action. Without it, the motion can indeed be mechanical and jerky, like someone trying to dance a waltz (I’m old) and thinking 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3. Tennis players who are having trouble with their serves are instructed to close their eyes and visualize the service motion they want to execute. This serves several purposes: (1) it slows them down from being to quick to serve, (2) it gives them mental rehearsal, which experts tell us is important like basketball free throw shooters shooting an “air” free throw before the real free throw, and (3) it smoothes out the motion.
One of the posters differentiated between amateurs who visualize the perfect stroke and pros who visualize the perfect shot. Research in expertise tells us that as you go up the scale from novice to expert, what they focus on changes. I imagine that this is a perfect example. Researchers use novice, intermediate, and expert chess players as examples of different levels of expertise and the differences in what they focus on. Before you can execute the perfect shot, you have to have the mechanics, and it is difficult to get the mechanics without focusing on it, just like the expert chess player has to go through the novice and intermediate stages before getting to the expert stage.
Charlie
Jerry,
Swinging a rock on a string held in one hand the clock is swinging in a perfect circle. Swinging a golf club head on a golf shaft and with the golfer standing beside the ball and bent over and with two hands onthe club causes the golf swing to be oval.
The Surge!
To Roger Hamilton,
Regarding your last paragraph, which you called the last one but far from the least annoying of your examples, you reference swinging standing in a barrel of hardened cement up to your chest and hitting a ball and swinging only your hands arms.
If I ubderstand your message to mean that this is not possible then I guess you missed reading my recent post “Meet my Friend Anthony…The Epitomy of the PPGS.”You can click on the article as it is listed near the top of this page in the right hand column in the middle black section under Peak Performance Golf swing.
He is a paraplegic strapped into a special wheelchair he helped invent called the Para Golfer. He is strapped in below the knees and at the chest. He is paralyzed from the chest down. He told me he has not body movement shift or turn. Anthony says he has Just a little shoulder turn and hits it with all arms and hands. His swing speed with a driver is over 120 MPH and his air carry is 300 ysrds plus and both have been documented in hitting clinics and demonstrations. Anthony is proof positive that one can swing using only arms and in the case of the PPGS using a limited turn 3/4 backswing using little body turn and mostly arms for accuracy and more clubhead speed.
You can see Anthony in his Para Golfer and see videos of him swinging and the projects he is working on on his website http://www.standup-and-play.com
The Surge!
Surge,
I’m approaching 74 and started playing at 10. Education and a professional career didn’t enable me to play consistently until 6 years ago. My swing is not too different from your teaching. My scoring has been messed-up by terrible close-in chipping and putting, but I am improving here.
My shots are almost always straight with drives from 186 to 200 yards. I can see from my practice that I need to make a correction in that I am having a problem with the weight shift. I am having a problem in shifting my weight off the right foot to the left side. The right leg even locks-up as you discussed. If I do get the weight to shift to the left side I frequently end up with a slight “pull.” If I don’t get the weight shift I do get a straight shot but I feel that I am swinging down to the ball with a possible “drop kick.”
However, if I do get the shift right with correct backswing and finish, off it goes straight as a die, 20 to 30 yards further!!!
How can I master (a) the right weight shift, (b) eliminate the slight “pull” tendency and (c) eliminate the tendency to swing down to the ball, risking “drop kicks.”
Art Ross
Surge, really enjoyed John OB’s thoughts on visualisation. I just recieved and read (in one day) Earnest Jones,”Swing the Clubhead” method. Like JIMSHA’s above comment,I to am a huge leverage man too.( those who don’t understand what I mean need to read the book) Anyhow as a result I had an outstanding hour and half at the driving range tonight. Yes I alowed myself to ‘feel’ the clubhead as I continued to practice the PPGS. I found a rythym in repeating ” toeline to toeline”, “toeline to toeline” as I covered the toeline with my left arm up 3/4 and then forward up covering the toeline with the follow through to a T finish. Things have really begun to click.
WOW! Keep on feeding us all these great post Surge, Thanks!
I think this is a very interesting tip! Look for instance at McIlroy to see how it works. He even seems to bend a little bit forward and put a little more weight on his toes in the backswing to get the club more upright without cocking or breaking his left wrist. Do you agree?
A couple of days ago I read your article about shorter driver. I’ve seen you mention this several times. could you tell me what the difference is if any in just choking up on the club rather than having it cut. the reason i ask this is, what if after cutting it, it doesn’t really work? then you have damaged your club. i have thought about having mine cut shorter but am really worried about ruining my investment on a 300 dollar club. please respond
thanks.
I have found the CDs’ and rememberd my password. Much obliged for your help. Shop my age less 2, last week. Playing the short grass is a lot of fun. If I can learn to putt,, perhaps a PAR roung is in the forseeabel future.
For Phil Nuccio. Making your driver shorter will not damage the club or its value. It can be lengthened if needed and it is an easy fix. Being really tall I have to lengthen almost all my clubs at least an inch. The exception is the driver which is shortened to 44.”
Why is it I see no opinions or comments on putting and the PPGS. Unknowingly I have been using the PPGS principles on the greens and have been making absurd numbers of putts for decades. The key is to swing the putter with as little shoulder movement as possible. That is to say when the back shoulder turns farther away from the target line it drags the putter into the SBG. Here is a simple way to get the correct feeling; assume the stance and have a friend stand facing you with arms extended with fists touching the shoulders. Have the friend resist any shoulder movement towards the target line on both the back and through strokes. Vertical movement is okay, but any horizontal movement destroys the linear release of the putter parallel to the target line. If the back shoulder swings away from the target line and does not return exactly to the address position the stroke will either push or pull. When the back shoulder hangs back it will push the putt and if it goes closer to the target line before impact it will pull the putt.
Don,
I see that your have added a very needed explanation at the end of your blog to direct lost or confused customers. Your allways thinking. Good Job.
Rod
I allso wanted to comment to Roger Hamilton.
Rodger I live next door to a large park and the nieghbors and I have been hitting balls there for many years now.
Four of us put in two dollors each time we play and we place a bucket about 50-75 yards out. The person chipping in the bucket wins the money. I must confess that when the bucket gets to about $60.00. I take out of my swing all waist, hips and legs. I just use my arms. I also don’t turn the toe of the club up, I leave it pointing outwardly.
Now that I have devulged how I win each time if they come across this blog I am in trouble. But I am a firm believer when you dont have to hit too far, use only the arms and like Don says, it is the arms.
Rod
As the internet speed is very slow, downloading and viewing electronic version is not possible in this part of the world, where I am staying( India–East).
What is the price right now before Thanks Giving for physical DVDs of PPGS swing by Don.
Deb
Roger’s comments are shared by some of us who have played the game for many years and are serious players. For me the “epiphany moment” came when I tried to instruct my son who was having difficulty grasping how to swing correctly. What I finally came to was thinking that golf has always been taught the same way since Harry Vardon. So I analyzed the swing by reverse engineering what has to happen in order for the ball to go straight. One of the problems with golf is instructors can’t actually see clubface position with a 115 MPH golf swing but they do see the ball flight and extrapolate “what must have happened” with the student’s swing in order for the ball to go where it just did. Now there is some computerized stuff on the market that Pro’s use for teaching that can ’sense” clubface angle and swing path data. This is helpful in telling the student what he just did but most students just can’t “get it” when the teacher “tells” them what to do next. And that, my friends, is the crux of the problem. So golf instructors conjure up “images” that the student can insert in place of real learned memory. Some times it works and sometimes not. There is some breakthrough technology coming this year that I am privileged to know about. It will blow your mind. All I can tell you (I am under non-disclosure) is that you will no longer have to imagine anything. And you will no longer have to consciously think about where your arms, elbows or knee-caps need to be during your swing. It is a computer driven device that works about as opposite as anyone would imagine. And frankly, when I saw how it works I wondered why no one thought of it before. If Roger would email me I would love to talk with him. I can be reached at jerryfoley1@gmail.com
Jerry
This $39.99 for Pro V1 and Pro V 1X balls is something that Titleist is doing, not something that you had to twist someones arm for, you kind find this deal at most any golf shop.
Many good questions and answers here that Don does not respond to for good reason. HE HAS NO ANSWERS! To Deb-NO YOU CAN NOT GET DVDS!!! HE would have to actually spend money for a decent product and distribution. HE will not do that!! And YES you can buy titleists for 39.95 at almost ANY large multi-unit golf shop!!! Don lies once again about his “great and arm twisting deal! All more of his marketing B.S. This internet predator is a joke. Your money is being stolen by this gigantic marketing fraud. Learn how to play. Don’t wish for “two bucket miracles!! I offer anyone FREE lessons that believes in this ridiculous system.—TOURPROVENGOLF@
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Hi Guys,
Love the mailing list read it constantly. Surge I bought your system and it was delivered on line.
For the life of me I cannot find it. Do you know where it might be stored in a computer?
I am sure you will see the order under my e-mail address.
Dave
Sorry to send this message Via this site but my e-mails to Maven Marketing keep being refused. Can you help.