Friday, July 30, 2010

Finish Defines the Swing

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I met Larry for his first lesson with me.  He called me because his best golfing friend recommended me as I had helped him regain his swing and more after double knee transplants and a hip replacement.  During my “State of Larry’s Swing,” game and physical abilities and or liabilities investigation, I found Larry’s scores have gone from regularly shooting in the high 70s and low 80s up into the 90s.  His relatively consistent ball striking and ball flight of straight to a slight draw, has morphed into a nightmare of pulls and hooks to mostly blocks, thin blades and slices.  And for good measure, he threw in that the occasional 1 in 10 shots was a shank.  Larry mentioned he was without any confidence, and no matter what he did, nothing worked. In fact, things were only getting worse.  When I asked about any physical problems, he mentioned a repaired left knee and a sore neck and shoulders constantly aching with limited turning range of motion that medical treatment had not been able to help.

Larry chose his target and began hitting a pitching wedge at the start of my filling out my setup and swing diagnosis and prescription form.   I saw his problem on the first swing, and wrote it on the back of his D/P form.  I ask a lot of questions of the student during this time. I also want them to talk and make as many comments about their swing and shots as they want as that is how I learn more about their game.  Larry was in tough shape mentally. He had no confidence or trust in anything.

Larry’s setup was overall pretty good and I graded him a B+ to A-.  His weight distribution was a little too heavy on his forward side which made him quite often get ahead of the ball in the forward upswing.  As for his swing, he had a good straight back into the mitt takeaway and a pretty decent degree of vertical to the top of his backswing, which was ¾ in length but was laid off and deep at the top due to over turning his shoulders.  Larry mentioned that his backswing, in his search for a new swing, had reached way beyond parallel and he worked hard to get it back to ¾.

I asked Larry what he felt was his primary problem and what he had been working on.  He said he was sure it was his backswing.  Because every time he felt he was in the right position at the top of his backswing he hit a good shot.  His problem was he could not find that position often enough or even get close to it.

He mentioned that all lessons he took the past few years were all about making as big a backswing turn as he could, getting the club pointing at the target line so it was at 10:00 o’clock at the top of the backswing.  His downswing thought was to pull and turn his hips as fast as he could through the ball.  This, as I saw, caused him to finish way left of his target and his arms folded and collapsed around his left/forward side with his left elbow at or below his belt.  He had also read the 1 plane /2 plane book and he was definitely, in terms of the book, a 1 plane rotational swinger.

During the swing evaluation, Larry did not hit one good shot.  The descent ones were all either slightly chunky or fairly solid with toe down deep divots that were weak right blocks and short. There were very few pulls, no hooks and then, as he said, the occasional shank.

My evaluation concluded that Larry’s shanks were not shanks but wide open face blades to the right.  Some were low on the face and sounded like a shank, never mind looking like one.  A few were hit higher up on the face, sounding closer to solid.  In all cases, the impact grass stain was not on the hosel but in close to the center of the clubface, proving he was hitting the ball with his face wide open at impact.  The big question was why?

The answer was simple.  He was under releasing his right/lower hand palm up approaching impact.  The next question was why was he under releasing his lower hand palm and clubface skyward?  His finish was way too deep and left of his target and his arms folded and collapsed around his torso like a cheap chair to an “El Foldo” arm finish.

t finish frontThe prescription was simple.  I taught Larry to swing up to a T- finish, torso square to the target.  His right/lower hand finishing close to his left/forward ear is the key to the T – Finish position.  This caused his arms to finish in an equilateral triangle in front of him where his elbows, the base line of the triangle, were parallel to the ground.  From there he immediately recoiled his arms and the club, pulling it back down in front of him.  This further squared his torso to the target at which his club must also be pointing which assured he was square.

Larry’s practice swings were absolutely awesome right from the first one.

re-coilWhat I liked and he recognized and commented on was he was hearing a swish and that his into a through impact and swing up to the finish was so much faster with less effort.  And he really liked that he had much better balance in his finish despite more speed.  Practice swings were great so Larry earned a golf ball.  He was eager and ready and sure he would hit a good one.  But that was not to be.  He hit a mediocre weak pop up block right.  The next was his non-shank open blade to the right.  And then another and another.

I stopped the hitting and asked him to tell me his downswing to finish thoughts.  His answer was simple, since he was feeling his arms and club swing faster, he was trying to pull and turn his hips and torso faster in his downswing.  There was his problem and the fix was easy.

I pointed out to Larry that pulling his hips and torso faster and more through impact, he was moving sooner, faster and farther ahead of his ball before impact.  His right or back hip was in the way of his arms and hands releasing to square up at impact.  And, in fact, the pulling left was actually causing them to not only not square up but actually do the opposite and under rotate his right/lower hand and club face up skyward, which is wide open, and causing the shank like shots.  Larry had his body running away from his arms and club and they could never catch up to square up for a solid and square impact.

The prescription was simple.  He must slow down his hips and legs and keep them what feels quiet and still until impact and then let them turn through as he swings up and stands up to his T – Finish.  We had enough success immediately.  He was hitting relatively good shots that had good shallow divots and solid impact, and a relatively straight to even a draw shape.

I concluded the lesson with some drills.  Then he asked if he should only practice and not play. My answer was if he had a good practice session, take his swing to the course as that is the ultimate test.  Larry called me that night to give me a wrap up of his practice and on course experience and state of his tight and aching neck, which I will reveal tomorrow.

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  • Bob Melancon
    Surge:

    In your article of February 28, 2010 you helped 'Larry' with his problem of his body 'running away from his arms and shoulders.' In other words, pulling the hips through so fast and so far that the arms and hands can not catch up at release. This is my problem as well ... big time!

    In your final paragraph you mention that you gave 'Larry' some drills to help with this. Could you please tell me those drills, or where I can find them on your website?

    Thanks.
  • DAVID BUXBAUM
    where is your school located ?
    I live in Tucson,Arizona but may be in Florida some time in April or May ..and need help !

    I am 84 years od .. have been as low as a 5 handicap ... age , operations ( hips and knee replacement) has taken it's toll .. all I am interested in at this time is enjoyable golf , which I am not experencing.

    Any hope for me ?

    Please advise , when time permits.

    Thank you ,

    David Buxbaum
  • Tim
    The visual you provided today of the "T" finish finally explained for me what a "T" finish is supposed to look like. I have been reading your daily articles for months but never quite got what the "T" finish was until today. Thanks. If the snow ever stops and a thaw occurs I look forward to working on the PPGS for the coming season.
  • Charlie
    Thanks to John and Dean for your answers. I am 33 years old and tried the videos and the concept and it just did not work for me even when my own swing is not a "roundhouse" one and fairly upright.

    The concept of a small turn and "pulling" the hands and arms created some of the weakest and ugly shots ever. As I started turning more the shots became longer and straighter.

    I must admit that I only went to the range once before taking the concept to the golf course so maybe I will not give up yet.

    Thanks again for your replies.
  • Robert
    John

    I'm a little older then you and I have only been golfing for 5 to 6 years, I have read every piece of litterature on the golf swing as you can imagine. All the top players in the world or I might say all the great ball strickers in the world are in the same position at impact. The PPGS swing that Don has been introducing has proved to simplify the argument for all the amatures what happens from the backswing to that good impact position you need to be in to have good ball stricking contact. Don has done two things here, he has investigated and proved that there is a simple swing techneque for everyone and that it can improve your ball stricking and help your body perform a swing techneque that Physically comforms to our body structure, no one else has done that. If you really look at all the swings from the last 100 years there are a lot of golfers who swing using a vertical 3/4 backswing. I know this is your opinion, but I can tell you one thing, if most of the world can't successfully hit the ball with the rotational swing theroy that has been introduced for the last 20 years and all these golf pro's who have made hunderds and thousands of dollars and did us more harm then good, then along came PPGS which personally transformed my game to successfully compete and win within a 3 month period, no pro or other swing techneque has done that for me.
  • Victor
    For me, it is very important to have in mind that I must pull (ring the bell) from the top, with my arms, and not intend to hit, with my wrists, till I have reached the level of my right hip. I must obtain as much centrifugal speed us I can, before I can try to hit the ball using my wrists (and hands).
    That will guide all my movements (body, arms and hands) and allows me to hit the ball as late as I can.
    Otherwise I will reach de impact zone from the outside.
    Do you think this is correct?
    I am a 77 old man with, an added, neuromuscular atrophy. As a young man I reached a 6 handicap. Now I play from the more advanced tee zone with a handicap near 20.
  • Kevin Perno
    Congrats to DJ in Phoenix.Its a shame they show the same golfers over and over!Even though he was near the top of the leaderboard I did not see him.The Golf channel should wise up
  • John
    Charlie.... That was my question from the beginning.. It seems like this PPGS swing was designed for people with bad backs and knees that still want to play the game and enjoy the game. I dont think its designed for the younger generation. I myself am 42 (and I have a bad back) but constantly fine this swing very difficult. I still can swing the club with a good amount of speed, so when I use this swing I lose an incredible amount of distance. So its makes me skeptical about using it. I also dont see anyone other then DJ as far as pros using this swing. Even when I watch him his swing seems NOT to be PPGS as advertised. But to answer your question I think this swing is for an OLDER golfer looking for a way to continue to play without pain. Mr Trahan is a great salesman and marketer of his products and has hit the right type of golfer and more power too him for doing it. But I dont see this being the save all swing. If you want to learn more about the game and want to get better.. See a local PGA professional. IM sure this post will be deleted soon since they dont like to keep negative posts on the board. But this is my opinion.
  • Ron
    I was watching the skins game broadcast this last weekend from Hawaii. Was I just seeing things or was Jack Nickalus using a shortened vertical backswing on nearly all of his full shots? It looked like his club was pointed straight up and was outside the toe line. We still have two feet of snow here in Iowa, but can't wait to get out and try the PPGS.
  • Charlie
    Hey Surge, I am trying to convince myself that I should try this swing however, considering that most everyone here is 100 years old,, is your swing designed just for old people? My god, hip replacements? knee replacements? Is anyone out there under 70 and have tried this swing? I would like to hear from you.
  • Charlie,

    It may be that the seniors on the Surge's blog are just a little more vocal. ;)

    I'm 48 and have had back problems for years using the "rotational golf swing". I play to a 6 from the back tees. Not only has Don's swing improved my accuracy... but I'm hitting every club in the bag longer, because I'm finally hitting the center of the club face with a lot more consistency (because of the reduced angles and the fact that I'm not moving all over the place during the swing).

    Don's son "DJ Trahan" uses the exact same swing. It's the only swing DJ has ever known (learned it from Don starting in pre-school). Don't know if you've been following DJ on the PGA Tour or not, but he finished wth a 67 yesterday to tie for 14th at the Phoenix Open. He also had top 10s in his previous two events at Pebble Beach and the Bob Hope (which he won in 2008). So you can say that Don's swing is also "tour tested".

    Dean
  • Jim Morrow
    The bump...I have been experiencing excellent results with PPGS. This weekend, the weather was marginal in Atlanta but I did walk 6 holes on Sunday before giving up to the cold. The important reason for commenting is the power of the bump. I got it right. Low turn into the mitt, bump to start the downswing and boom. I noticed with a good bump that I don't have to flex my knees quite as much. The results were incredible considering the wind chill had it to about 35 degrees 'F. First hole excellent drive, second shot from 160, dead in line hit 4 feet in front of the hole. Second, good shot with 3 rescue, slightly over green with extremely difficult down hill chip. Third, excellent drive, wedge 2' stiff to pin. Fourth good drive, 3 wood up hill into stiff wind, 10' dead in line with hole. And it just keeps on....My point is the bump or slide brings the club head down the line and provides a straight, repeatable trajectory for all clubs. The low shoulder turn into the mitt is essential for power and direction. I went through a spell when I didn't make the turn but just moved my arms back to the mitt. The result were over the top pulled or curving left and very little power. My swing keys are to turn low into the mitt and bump. All the rest flows.

    The low shoulder turn into the mitt, a good bump, and standup as fast as I can is providing the flight that I have been searching for my entire career.

    Thanks again for PPGS. Can't wait for warmer weather and daylight savngs time...Jim
  • Kent Sinsabaugh
    Hey Surge, Been using the PPGS for 1 yr. and it's working.

    I'm not an inner circle member, but am interested in the school in March. What do I need to do to find out about it?
  • Frank Sullivan
    This answer is to Art my name is Frank and I am 78 in may and I have tried every swing from Hogan,s to Moe Normans and lately for the last two months I have been working indoors at a dome in Ontario and this swing to me is the answer to a lot of back problems. The Surge says its a body friendly swing and believe me I feel this year I will get back to were I played before to a 6Hdcp. So Art give this swing a good chance and I think you will be happy with it.
    Frank att sully5732@sympatico.ca
  • Paresh Tanna
    HI SURGE

    I AM LEFT HANDED 18 HANDICAP BUT AM NOT GETTING THE DISTANCE FROM MY DRIVER. PLEASE HELP
  • Ron
    Hi Surge, I am a fit and healthy 64 year old and play off 8. I have seen a marked improvement in consistency using your swing principles compared to my previous 1 plane swing and no lack of distance for which I thank you. I have 2 questions for you;

    1) My only annoying misshit now is a near top which happens maybe once max twice in a round and always off the tee (can be with a driver or even a hybrid). Could this be due to rising too early out of the forward upswing?

    2) I have noticed less lower back problems than with my old swing but ironically my left shoulder which never bothered me before is now painful after playing (not during the game). An x-ray and echogram reveal calcification on the shoulder tendon. The inflammation can be reduced by a cortisone injection. Have you had similar comments from other pupils? Am I perhaps doing a wrong movement which puts more pressure on the shoulder?

    Many thanks for your comments
  • Daniel Larson
    A "PS" to my email regarding the 3 iron and metal wood . . .I must explain that due to the exchange rates and working in textiles, I cannot afford to buy any of your instruction videos at this stage.

    Regards,
    Daniel
  • Fred McKimball
    Art,

    Don't be afraid to give up what you have been doing and start the PPGS. I did last year at age 79 and started PPGS. It is easier on my body, increased my accuracy and I didn't lose distance. PPGS is the only instruction I am following and it works because it is simple to understand and physically makes sense. At our age, we simply cannot swing like most of the Pros do. Hope this helps.

    Fred
  • Richard
    Hi My name is Richard, I'm 65 yers Old, still in pretty good shape, as I get older I am loosing distance and I'm slicing the ball, and it seem I'm loosing how to hit my irons, just loosing it, cant hit nothing, which I never had a problem before, don't know if I loose my confadance or what,also whaen hitting the driver, I'm slicing the ball, or it seems to go curve right, what am i doing, opening the face, how do you keep the club nn the right possion and your hands, so it goes stright?
    I order you videos on 2/20/10 about how long does it take to recive them? and I'm not sure I did the right stuff to get waht i needed to get and to joine members, do i go in and do first time user
  • Richard,

    Yes, click on the "Members Login" link at the top of any page on the site. Then, when you get to the login page, click on the botom link that says "First Time User?". There you'll be able to set your password and you'll be logged in automatically. Once in, you'll be able to see all the videos under either the "My Products" or "Inner Circle" menu links.

    Dean
  • I thought these were video lessons, I am a visual learner so it it tough to follow audio only.
  • Art
    I really like what I read about PPGS. However, I have tried many others and will be 70 years old soon and am reluctant to start out on yet another new swing. I am wondering if there are any teaching professionals in my area (Salt Lake City) that are disciples of PPGS that could assist with learning this swing concept?

    Thanks
  • LEE
    LET ME JOIN YOU IN CONGRATULATING YOU ON HOW WELL DJ DID IN THE CURRENT PGA PLAY.

    I ALSO NOTICED HOW WELL HE DID AT THE BEER SOAKED #16 HOLE.

    SAYS A LOT ABOUT HIS FOCUS AND TRAINING
  • George Dacko
    Surge, I would like to hear your analysis of Ryan Moore's swing. He has a very "up the tree" backswing, but what about the rest of the swing ? George
  • John
    Wow.. Is this me to a tee. I am lefthanded and have been pushing the ball to the left and shanking the heck out of the ball which I was not doing. I to have a lot of toe down hits. Even got my clubs adjusted upright 2 degrees to stop hitting the ball off of the toe. The problem I have is I was using PPGS and was having a lot of problems with it. Hitting topped shots and fat shots and losing an incredible amount of distance. But now it seems that my hips are whats causing the problem from what im reading in the Surge's article. I feel like im Larry. Here comes my dilemma. I am skeptical about going back to the PPGS. I just hate losing my distance. Yes accuracy is important. I would rather be straight instead of off course. But would love to have both accuracy and length as im sure everyone else would. But if the PPGS will help me from blocking my shots to the left and shanking even my sand wedge then maybe I need to look into it again..
  • Ed
    TO RICK PALMER:

    There are about a dozen bloggers looking to get a copy of your Excel spreadsheet that you offered back on 25 Feb. We all left our e-mail addresses but if you no longer have that blog available, please leave your e-mail address in your next post so we all can contact you directly.
    Thanks for offering it to us.
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