Monday, February 08, 2010

Back Leg and Knee Must Stay Flexed in Backswing

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Now that you all have met my friend Anthony Netto, let’s get back to discussing setup and swing issues I saw with our students at the PPGS golf school last week.

One major problem that I see in golfers at all levels, including the professional tours (but is more acute an issue with amateurs) is the movement of the back knee and leg in the backswing.  The purpose of the backswing is to make a weight shift (even with the PPGS limited turn backswing) behind the ball to help generate power for the transition to the forward swing for impact and then to the finish. The PPGS setup helps this weight shift with our pre-loaded heavy right setup position already having us setup loaded onto the flexed right leg.  I discuss this in the Foundation Golf Swing manual on page 38.  But even with this described in detail, I keep seeing the back leg move improperly, straightening and even locking up in the backswing by as many as well over 90 percent of golfers.  So let’s look at what a good weight shift and transfer is in the backswing as regards the back leg and knee movement.

I describe and write in golf lessons in the prescription section of my lesson form sheet for weight shift in the backswing, the following description.  “Limited turn to shift weight OVER AND ONTO AN INLINE FLEXED BACK KNEE.”  In the Foundation Manual, on page 100 in the Top of Backswing face on section in point #8 it reads, “Right leg loaded.  That is, your hip socket, knee and ankle are in a straight line.  Knee Flexed.”

We start with the back knee flexed in the setup and it should remain flexed in the backswing as the limited turn loads over and onto the “flexed” back Knee.  Webster’s dictionary defines load as “to put (a load) into or upon (a carrier).  The load is your weight transfer of your upper torso. The carrier is your back leg.
The question we now have to ask is why do many golfers not load “OVER AND ONTO” their back leg and rather straighten, even lock up the knee.  The straightening back leg causes “REJECTING” the weight pushing the torso forward into a reverse pivot or weight shift.  This opens up the Pandora’s Box of swing problems, from outside to in steep angle of attack swing path that can slice as quick as pull or hook the ball,  and cause thin shots to chunk   impacts. There are basically 2 issues causing the straightening of the back leg.  One is setup related and the other is caused by the swing.

The setup problem is the widely taught position of pressing or cocking the rear leg inward with the thought that in the backswing we turn “AGAINST” the back leg.  The belief is that this builds up torque on the inside of the upper leg thigh muscles with the idea that this creates power and will stop swaying.  It doesn’t build up torque. Instead, it builds tension and stress in the leg, hip, lower back and even up to the shoulders and neck.  It does stop swaying outside the back foot by pushing the player instead inside it and toward the front foot and ahead of the ball with the reverse weight shift.  We cure this setup problem with the PPGS wide knee with outward pressure, pre loaded heavy right setup position.

The swing problem happens with making a big shoulder and hip turn as relates to our body design.  I describe this in lessons by saying, “As long as our legs are attached to our hips, no human being can make a 90 degree plus torso turn toward the back leg and not have that leg straighten up.  And when the back leg begins to straighten up, the front leg will begin to bend or break inward, adding more to the straightening of the rear leg.”  This happens because of the law of physics that states “for every action there is an equal and opposite re-action.”  This action/re-action can be caused by either the front knee bending inward, pushing the back leg straight, or the back leg pulling the front inward.  Either way, the back leg is straightening and setting into motion the wrong leg movement of both legs.

One final point that must be covered is that this backswing right leg straightening action/re-action (we will now call an action) will cause the transition forward re-action opposite breakdown of the legs.  The back leg, as it moves forward in the transition, increasing speed, will break and the back side collapses downward.  The forward leg and knee now straighten to complete the forward swing re-action.

The swing cure for the rear leg straightening and setting is to understand the concept of weight transfer “over and onto” the flexed rear leg so you can then do it correctly.  The main point is that the knee flex, at address, must NEVER, and I mean NEVER change to less flex as any less flex is straightening.

The REAL DEAL is that the rear knee flex MUST CHANGE to a little MORE flex than the address position flex.  Why?  Because as the definition of load states, “to put into or UPON,” must cause flexing of the knee as the leg “RECEIVES” and “ACCEPTS” the weight.  This is the same as when you get into your car or golf cart, the springs and shocks depress to receive and accept your weight.  Baseball pitchers rear knee flexes just before they push off the mound to throw the pitch.  Tennis players, when serving, throw the ball up and both knees flex as they load their legs to spring up to smash the serve.

Golfers must load, that is get OVER and ONTO, the FLEXED rear leg in the backswing in order to have a powerful and level transition to impact.  This can only happen with the rear leg flexing MORE when it receives the weight.

The Surge!

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Comments

77 Responses to “Back Leg and Knee Must Stay Flexed in Backswing”
  1. JR says:

    Surge, I think you ment to say shift our weight into the golf cart not shit…

  2. Joe Rizzi says:

    There are times when you must hit the ball left or right around a tree. How does this affect your alignment with your feet, and is there any change in your hands?

  3. Karen G. says:

    Hmmm, when you put it that way, I think I’ll be able to transfer my weight now. How simple! I was concentrating on weight front, transfer to back…So now I just start loaded on the back. Right?

  4. frank albo says:

    i have problems shifting my weight, i am all arms.

  5. Richard says:

    Hi Surge, In order for me to fully understand the takeaway into the mitt and straight up the tree I need to see a visual. This will help me a great deal.

    Thanks much

  6. Mike says:

    Shifting your weight from one side of your body to the other
    is sometimes a hard concept to understand, especially for
    amateur golfers. It doesn’t have to be. Think of how you
    naturally shit your weight when you get into a golf cart.

    Surge! you’ve gotta get spell check.

    I can’t remember the last time I shit my weight :-)

  7. Thomas says:

    Surge,

    this article is brilliant.
    I have always thought the regular guy/gal can use a little help on
    the teaches side of it in communicating the feel of the golf swing
    in their sports; tennis, golf, baseball, football, hockey.

    Of course there is nothing new in using analogy but it is definitely an
    underused tool to learn something pretty complicated in a simple way.

    Thanks.

    Thomas

  8. Joyce says:

    Thbink of a tennis player hitting a serve.
    Think of how you
    naturally shit your weight when you get into a golf cart.

    Don,

    I like your lessons and your concepts, but please,…. hire a proofreader.

  9. Thomas says:

    In answering Joe’s question above if I may?

    It is the same as if hitting those shots in tennis.

    Sure you can hit a draw or fade in golf by manipulating your grip just like in tennis.

    Try simpley closeing or opening the clubface and make the same swing and see what happens.
    The beauty of the sport of golf is we all have different sensibilities, strengths, reflexes;etc.

    I know many who have an open stance and hit a hook and visa versa.

    I suggest playing around with the idea of using tennis techniques to play and hit shots in golf and then see what happens.

  10. Ian McNeil says:

    I decide to try and improve my backswing turn by not concentrating on keeping my eyes on the ball , but letting the head go with the backswing.It worked initally and the result was longer drives , though sometimes pulled.However as the round went on i increasingly started to fall into the faults you described , resulting in shorter and cut drives .In the end i lost my rythm totally.Help!!

  11. Irv Sussman says:

    As I read the comments of my fellow frustrated golfers. I feel we were all duped again. Since buying your download video’s and practicing what you suggest, I have seen my handicap rise from 16 to 25, my fairways hit drop below 60% and my average yardage drop at least 10 yards per Club. Most of all I now have trouble getting any height on my Calloway 10.5 driver. Your daily bloga wander from tip to tip but most of all there is nothing new or a breakthrough. I read Jack’s “Golf my Way” back in the 70’s’ and his complicated directions for weight shift. I hope you are getting wealthy on the ignorance and wishful thinking of your audience. I must thank you for finally convincing me there are no magic bullet instructions, equipment or aids that can make a sows ear (me) into a silk purse (10 handicap).Now if I can only forget everything I viewed and read from you, and go with my natural instincts.

  12. Bob says:

    I need advice on where to position the ball for the driver to 9I. I also haven’t received nor know how to access the manual that is referenced. Regards, Bob

  13. Paul says:

    As a 70 year old golfer who started two years ago, I found turning around a flexed right knee to be very hard to do. Once I did master this, however, I found tremendous improvement in the consistency of my swing, my ability to keep the club on a reasonably good plane, and consequently much better ball striking and even greater distance. I am convinced that a lot of my problem was lack of strength in my legs and therefore a weak foundation upon which to rotate and swing. I have found that working on exercises to strenghten the ability of the legs to support the body has helped me a lot.

  14. DaveP says:

    I have no trouble keeping both knees flexed throughout the swing but I can have trouble with weight moving to the outside of the back foot. I understand your 60% loaded, though the feel of 60% is questionable. I have trouble understanding how you can get a proper weight shift if you do the 60% and then prevent the forward knee from moving toward the back knee, as the manual instructs?

    Enter the suggestion to “swing the arms faster” and now I find it difficult to coordinate this with the weight shift and achieve good timing. I found, in the worst case, an all arms swing with very little weight shift to the forward foot. Any suggestions how develop the proper movement of both arms and legs together? I might be just hopelessly uncoordinated.

  15. Gregg Ryan says:

    Surge,

    In the future, you may want to use spell-check. You meant to say “shift” and you inadvertently left out the “f” which changed the word dramatically.

  16. Rod Reynolds says:

    Don,

    I had to reply before even reading the above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    On the page b/4 this one you said getting into a golf cart you naturally SHIT your weight, ops!

    Another thing I have not been doing!

    Rod

  17. Ken says:

    Just a heads up to all you guys and gals who are asking about the manual, the manual was a seperate purchase from the DVD’s, I know because I had the same issue as I simply forgot all of what had taken place with all the excitement of everything going on, there was a box that asked if you wanted the manual and all you had to do was check it and agree to pay the extra money, I opted to go with just the DVD’s and then later on convinced myself that I had ordered the manual. Sound Familar?!
    Happy Golfing
    Ken

  18. Richard says:

    Dear Don,
    Since childhood, I have contiguously played tennis for over 30 years, and now I’m getting into golf. My natural swing is outside in – it’s my forehand motion – yet I’ve learned how to properly address the ball, begin my motion and follow through from a local pro, which does make for straight drives. My challenge comes from so much tennis where the urge to swing through the ball with tremendous force, which is now part of my DNA, is ever-present and thereby creates a slice. Yes, I can back off the throttle, however, it feels like I’m hitting a second serve, which is about 75% of my available force. Am I relegated to hitting a second serve type golf swing from here on, or will I ever be able to tap into that extra power with positive results?
    Thanks so much!
    Richard

  19. Rod Reynolds says:

    I am the golfer that could never hit a wood, but have had many hole in ones.

    Once you taught this to me and it sunk in I have been hitting my woods and my game is much easier not that I can get to a green in two shots (when they are a 4 par).

    For me this is the most valuable lesson I have learned.

    I thank you, you are the best.

    Rod

  20. Rod Reynolds says:

    Ment to say now that I can get to the green in two.

  21. Brian Hansen says:

    To all you people who have purchased the DVD’s from the same page that you download the DVD’s is a block “My products”click on that and you will find the Manual you are looking for.

  22. Tom says:

    Shifting your weight from one side of your body to the other
    is sometimes a hard concept to understand, especially for
    amateur golfers. It doesn’t have to be. Think of how you
    naturally shit your weight when you get into a golf cart.

    If I did that, no one would ever play golf with me.

  23. Tony DeRouen says:

    Surge,

    I can’t resist… although I have had some very good bath room visits, I have never sh*t my weight. Keep this stuff coming… lol

    tony d

  24. Morey Bowman says:

    Don: You dont want me to shit my weight do you ?? I know you meant SHIFT my weight

  25. Rob says:

    I always try to get out of the cart before I shit, it tends to negatively affect the rest of my cart partner’s round. Just kidding! I really see the parallel in a tennis serve, because it is not a conscious decision, it just happens naturally. I was always told to keep my weight back, then I was told I wasn’t getting it through at impact. It can be really confusing. If you just try to ‘feel’ the weight go to the back instep and then to the front instep and impact, it has helped me avoid swaying or getting ahead of the ball.

  26. jimsha says:

    I’ll tell you this much, if I ever shit my weight as I am getting into a golf cart, a flawed swing is by far my last concern!

  27. Mitch Kastros says:

    Don,

    I don’t care how you spell it, your discussion of the weight shift and keeping the back knee flexed is clear and concise. Each lesson you give provides simple key points which I am using on the practice tee, and with positive results each time. My game is becoming more and more solid with your teachings, and I thank you for these learning opportunities.

  28. LEE says:

    Hi Surge,

    WOW – lots of your readers are way too short on basic forgiveness.

    Like they never made a mistake.

    I bet we could have lots of fun with those!

    I think they need more than golf instruction anyway.

    Keep truckin’ inspite of them.

  29. Gordon Gibson says:

    There seems to be a growing interest in your instruction manual. When will the paper version (not the e-mail version) be on sale?

  30. DOROTHY says:

    HI MR. TRAHAN,

    I RECEIVED YOUR 10 FREE VIDEOS AND AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT YOUR INSTRUCTION

    IS WORKING ALREADY.

    I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH THAT SEEMS DUMB TO ME BUT MAYBE NOT TO YOU.

    HOW DO I SHIFT MY WEIGHT IN THE GOLF SWING PLEASE?

    IS IT MY FEET OR KNEES OR HIPS?

    AND ONCE MORE, WHATEVER IT IS – WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH

    THEM?

    THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE

  31. J. Mosley says:

    I’ve a little confused since the get-go. Actually, when I ordered your series of DVD’s, I assumed I would receive them in the mail. Not so. I asked my secretary to copy them to DVD’s. For whatever reason, she was unable to copy and/or burn copies of same. Plus, I’m a little confused with certain of your instruction because I read the Stack ‘N Tilt article in Golf Digest and looked at it on their http://www.golfdigest.com/go/tipsplus. Personally, I think a pronounced weight shift impairs accuracy for an amateur (16-handicap). What additional amount, if any, do I need to remit to receive the actual DVD’s together with any applicable manual. I appreciate your enthusiasm and I think most of your instruction is well founded. Some of the folks offering comments & questions appear to be having an issue with the term “shift.” If comes out with a contrary spelling which is generally offensive in Baptist circles. Thank you very much.

  32. Joey says:

    Wow I loved your column today. I’ve never laffed this much in a long time. I think it’s good for
    us to loosen up once in awhile. (possibly why you misspelled the word shift. At least you’ll
    know we’re reading it all.

  33. R Bohanon says:

    Don,

    sent n email 3 days ago wanting to know if there is a PPG instructor in the West Palm Beach area. It say I will recieve a reply in a couple days and Im still waiting. Also I hear you keep referring to your manual. WIll I get a manual or do I have to pay more ? Please let me know.

  34. JohnOB says:

    I can’t understand how a few spelling mistakes could generate so many bullsh*t responses.

    PS. Don, great article again today.

  35. maurie deming says:

    I see all the questions. Where do you print the answers?

  36. Robert Copeland says:

    Don,

    Many thanks for enlarging the typeface for these email tips. It sure makes it a lot easier to read.

  37. Robert Copeland says:

    Don,

    Here’s one more comment. I’ve noticed recently some of the respondents mentioning not getting the manual. Maybe you should mention they can download it in PDF form it they go up to “Products” under your masthead and click on the manual. That’s what I did back in August when I couldn’t get your people on the phone to buy a hardback copy. I printed out all 100+ pages, 3-hole punched them and put them in a binder. It’s all mentioned in your FAQ.

  38. Frank Jones says:

    BIG AHA! I read a tip from a golf magazine regarding the feel of weight transfer. It reccomended trying to imagine that you have a pressure gauge under your forward foot. When you begin the transition to the forward swing, try to step on the pressure gauge to achieve maximum pressure. Well, I tried it on the range and I was totally surprised to feel like a “poptart,”i.e. standing up as fast as possible! I had tried AFAP before without really feeling what I felt that day.

  39. Dick Jones says:

    The first word of today’s email headline, “Thbink of a tennis player hitting a serve,” was priceless. Purely onomatopoeic.

    The surge’s new-coined word, “thbink,”
    Isn’t as weird as one might think.
    It’s the sound when club hits ball
    In the PPGS swing, that’s all.
    It takes your game to “good” from “stink.”

  40. JohnOB says:

    Today’s article by Don on weight transfer should help a whole bunch of golfers, and is worth another read, like the segment I have copied and pasted below:

    ” The REAL DEAL is that the rear knee flex MUST CHANGE to a little MORE flex than the address position flex. Why? Because as the definition of load states, “to put into or UPON,” must cause flexing of the knee as the leg “RECEIVES” and “ACCEPTS” the weight. ”

    I use a personal drill that helps me greatly with the FEELING of correct loading ONTO the back foot.

    Simply stand up, and attempt to JUMP UP about a foot above the ground, and notice the AUTOMATIC flexing of the knees , and loading of the feet, as they prepare to BOUNCE you back up to execute your jump.

    It,s this BOUNCE FORWARD in the downswing that (I repeat for me) assists in transferring the weight onto the FRONT FOOT. Give it a try!!! All you have to do is stand up and jump, NOW!!

  41. AJ says:

    check your spelling on you E-Mail it says How you SHIT your weight when you get into a golf cart???????
    Sorry
    AJ

  42. Howard Bennett says:

    Don:

    I subscribed to the dvd’s How do I get a manual?

  43. The Surge! says:

    Randy,

    I really like your comments about a big weight shift and too many moving parts. You mention that the legs are like two sides of a triangle and the weight stays between the feet on the arches. I agree with the weight between the feet and over the arches, but i have to interject a correction as to the legs being two sides of a triangle as relates to the PPGS.

    In the PPGS setup I describe and in fact call the Wide Knees with outward pressure looking like “riding a skinny horse” the Trademark of the PPGS setup. I describe that the ankles to knees to hips are in a straight line and on up to the shoulders so the feet to shoulders look more like a tall building and the legs in no way resemble a triangle.

    I believe that triangle legs in fact are also a cause of the back leg straightening in the back swing and then the front doing the same in the forward swing. I hope this clears up the actual position of the legs in the PPGS Setup.

    Don

  44. Greg says:

    Surge,

    2 words: sphell chech

    gw

  45. Randy Erickson says:

    Irv Sussman says:
    height on my Calloway 10.5 driver

    I say:

    Your problem is you bought a crappy knockoff driver. Your driver lettering should be “Callaway”. Take it back and get the real thing. Then go practice. Surge’s advice is not a magic bullet or a blessing from the Pope. Anointing us from the “Book of Surge” does not automatically turn you into DJ.

    I’ve had some serious improvement with this swing and it almost mimics my local pro teachings. But it takes work. Don’t continue to by swing aids, golf mags, Wonder Shoes. Go practice with a purpose.

    As for all the posts on DVD’s, The foundation manual, Cry, Cry, Cry, I can’t find it, I didn’t get it. Enough. It’s all there. Get your kids to show you how. They are all easy to download.

    Here’s how.
    1 Click on Members Login in the upper right hand corner of the home page.
    2 Log in on the next page: yes you must pay to be a member
    3 Then under the PPGS banner (looks like a picture) click on My Products (second from the left) and click and hold the left mouse button down.
    4 A popup will appear that reads: DVD Series and Foundation manual. Click on the one you want.
    If you get this far and can not figure it out you should not be golfing as it is less complex that what follows.

    Good luck. Sorry to be so harsh but the posts should be about golf.

  46. Michael says:

    To those golfers afflicted with the weight transfer blues.

    Don’t worry about trying to ’cause’ the weight to transfer from set-up to the back leg, (right handers) then onto the forward leg (left leg for right handers). If you just swing your arms backwards and forwards, the weight will transfer naturally. The reason for this natural transfer is simply that the arms (male) weigh around 27 – 28 pounds, and moving that mass, plus the club, around your body will cause your weight to transfer without any conscious thought.

    Try taking your normal stance, without a club – preferably in bare feet – join your hands together and swing your arms backwards and forwards in a swinging motion. You will get the feeling of the weight transfer through your feet. Give it a try.

  47. Randy Erickson says:

    This knee flex is correct for this swing. So is the weight stacking, starting on the right side. Us larger people have issues starting neutral, shifting right and then struggling to move left during the swing. Physics says: once a body is in motion, it tends to stay in motion, unless acted upon by force. This translates to a body moving back, keeps going back. It’s damn hard to stop. The bigger you are the harder to stop. Starting with the right side loaded means you only have to shift weight one direction. Good advice, lets stay flexed.

    The “Stack and Tilt” (I’ve also tried with limited success) teaches that the right leg does go straight. If you look at old Hogan pictures or old Nicklaus, they look like they have a very straight right leg. Surge, is it an optical illusion or did they really straighten it out?

  48. Jerry B says:

    Surge

    Why worry about Sir Sussman

    Tis obvous he CAN NOT read instructions.

  49. Tim Chapman says:

    hi Don, are we saying the power for the swing is going to come from the loaded back knee springing up & away from the ground, rather than as I thought from any rotary action ? ps i’ve only bought the dvds in the past few days so am new to your stuff & haven’t got them yet, so apologies if this is covered in the dvd set.

  50. John says:

    Hi Surge,

    Im a pretty large guy. Im what you call short and fat. kind of like Craig Stadler. It seems that im having problems with learning this swing and hope you can help. I have watched your videos that I bought and am trying to learn this concept of the PPGS. A little about me, I am lefthanded so everything for me is backwards. And like I said on the heavy side. So when I take my stance unless I bend over a lot my hands do not hang freely under my chin. It seems what is happening is that I am cutting across the ball alot trying to “pop up like toast from a toaster” So the your system is a little frustrating. Im hoping you can shed some light on what a heavy guy should do to perfect your system. I a little confused with the pre load left (for my case) and how I should get into that position and when to transfer my weight in the swing. I hope I can get some help with these issues.. thanks

    John.
    have a happy day

  51. Malcolm Tidmarsh says:

    Hi Surge,
    Thanks for all your good advice you send me on a regular basis.
    I have a question :
    The weather in the U. K. is currently very wet and soggy and as a consequence we play under winter rules where provided our ball is on the fairway we can pick up our ball clean it and
    place it back within 6 inches of it’s original position. However given the conditions we will be playing under for the next 3 – 4 months it is very easy to strike the ball thin or heavy can you offer
    any advice please.
    Regards
    Malcolm.

  52. Ronnie McCurry says:

    I really can’t stand to see negative comments about your method of teaching. Some people just don’t have the ability to play well. That should not be on you. I stopped playing for about 25 years but like most people here I have great passion for the game. I started back and got down to a 12 handicap and stumbled across your website. I understand the concept and respect your credentials, however after trying this swing for 2 months I am unable to execute. My drives went from 250 to 200 yards. Iron play is even worse. I now can’t break 95. I started lying to my friends faking illness and physical problems to stay away from the course due to embarassment. I tried to perfect this method on the range and got worse. It got to the point were I came home one day and cried. That is not like a Viet Nam vet to do that. I wish you the best. Since I can no longer go back to the way I was playing I am quitting the game I live for. Maybe since I am 67 years of age it is time.

  53. Bill Milne says:

    WEIGHT SHIFT VS SWAY
    I had a friend (a good golfer) correct me many years ago. He told me that I was swaying back rather than shifting (transferring) my considerable weight. The net effect being I had my right hip and upper body going back past perpendicular making it very difficult to get my weight going in the proper direction. He had me put a door stop under the back side of my right foot to keep me from swaying back until I got the feel of loading my right leg.

  54. Jeff Hogan says:

    Hey Don, I’m not ragging on you… the email was a good laugh. I gotta say, one more time, since spellcheck probably would have not caught the error… you gotta get yourself a proofreader. Your swing ideas really gave me a good foundation to work from. I’ve since moved on, but have a lot of respect for you and your teaching.

    Now repeat after me… I will have someone else read my writing before I publish it.

    Best of luck,
    Jeff

  55. DaveP says:

    Surge, Is there some way to filter this blog to keep only the technical questions and have someone from your staff answer? It is tiresome to page through all the comments about typo’s and download/delivery problems and then not get any, or very few, responses to the technical questions.

  56. WillusB says:

    Surge, Alignment, parallel left, I get that all – but I had a devil of a time keeping my knees wide while not swaying. Per-shifting my weight back just made it worse. But I think I got it now – the knee bend post is the best! Thank you!!!

    Guys – Give Don a break. He’s a golf pro AND cranks this post out EVERY day and is now recording it too, so he’s busy and in a hurry. Go ask the librarian for swing help if perfect spelling is so important. Plus 1. today’s typo was actually pretty funny; 2. spell check might not help as sh*t is a real word; and 3. maybe that’s what Don actually meant so chomp down a box of Ex-Lax (TM), hit the course, and see what happens!!

  57. JohnOB says:

    Enough is enough. It’s time to give this mis-spelling bullshift a break.

  58. NinerMike says:

    To Randy Erickson and Michael

    You both have made excellent contributions to this forum. And you both share an eloquence that clarifies and inspires.

    Great job!

  59. If anyone has any questions concerning the manual or any other Customer Service questions, please call me Ken Trahan at 888-847-9464 9 to 6pm EST M-F and I will be glad to assit you, have a great day.

  60. NinerMike says:

    To Dave P

    I read your statement re some swing problems. Get thee immediately to the “Words from Warren” post. Read the comments. Some paralysis has crept into your analysis!

    To start bringing all those body parts together (including weight shift), you’ve got to get back to a pure swinging motion.

    Amen

  61. John says:

    Hello Again,

    Are the ONLY post that get answered the ones that have to do with Customer Service and to praise other posters from posting?? Why are there SO MANY unanswered posts?? Who gives a rats ass about spelling.. LIke the gentleman that misspelled Callaway that gets ragged on saying he has a knock off.. Come on people. Where are the people on this site that are making the money to sell this stuff to help out with there product and give answers.. Mr Ken Trahan, Mr Don Trahan or anyone else that he employs. Isnt what this forum is about.. Getting help after reviewing the videos?? Or is it just buy the videos then your on your own? I would hope that wouldnt be the case.. Mr Trahan, I know your extremely busy selling your product, cause I know your not on the tour. So can you please hire some people to help those of us that purchased your product and have some questions about it.. Thanks

    John
    be well

  62. JohnOB says:

    I refer to the comments in Don’s post above i.e. ” Stanging like a tall building “. How about going the extra mile, and visualising that tall building being the ” LEANING TOWER OF PISA ” in order to get that elegant looking body tilt that is the hallmark of nearly (if not all) pro’s.

  63. D. Bruce Emerson says:

    QUOTE: “Think of how you
    naturally shit your weight when you get into a golf cart”. Read this three times and then think about having someone proofread your daily offering before you post it.

    Bruce

  64. Dave Ripley says:

    Surge –

    Another way to keep the back leg flexed and get weight transfer is to think about “sinking” down to your back foot as you take the club back.

    In reality you won’t sink over an inch or so, but it helps keep the flex and facilitates weight transfer. It also almost guarantees you’ll be swinging up as you come back through.

    Dave

  65. jack says:

    don;

    subject:weight shift

    To thou’s who are having trouble with weight shifting problems, First you must go back to the basics, to train your muscle memory to help shift your weight forward from your back leg to you front leg. this is done by getting one of your irons (any club) take your normal ppgs stance with your weight on your back leg, start with your club in the top 12:00 o’clock position . then in slow -slow motion start your down swing, an at the same time start shifting your weight to your front leg all the way to tee finish, continue doing this at slow-slow motion until you feel comfortable, then start.then speed up to slow motion,continue this until you are comfort,then speed it up to your normal swing. next take it to the driving range, buy 2 bucket of balls and do it all over again, starting with slow-slow position again.don’t worry about the distance, it will come.doing this will create muscle memory. hope everyone will have a good ppgs swing!!

    respectfully Jack Lanier

  66. zar says:

    there are a lot of “golf lingo” that i still have to understand. “backleg; front leg” sometimes it makes me laugh at myself what’s all these about back leg and or front leg. (lol) i have them all the time: my back leg facing front! and my front leg ( now i got 2 legs facing front and parallel to each other) (lol) i didn’t know that golf is more of a mental game like chess. anyway, golf is golf and its very addictive specially when you’re hitting your ball good. thanks don i really do appreciate all these tips you’ send. but still can’t beat tiger woods (lol) cant even be his caddy. (lol)

  67. Don, thanks for the response to my comments. My suggestion that the legs are like the sides of a triangle are to show that the lower body is quite. I do not suggest that they are straight but rather athletic. Since we both agree that the weight stays on the inside over the arch I believe that in a way we are both saying the same thing.

    Your are the expert on the PPGS. I do not profess to be a guru on PPGS, however I was attempting to simplify your comments. http://www.aboutjuniorgolf.com

  68. Sorry I meant to say quiet not quite. http://www.aboutjuniorgolf.com

  69. Amos Terrell says:

    to ZAR:

    You are nearly correct — GOLF is similar to CHESS — not in the swing but rather in Course Management. The real purpose of the shot you are about to hit is get the position you want for your next shot — specially on tee shots and irons to the green.

    In that respect golf is like chess — you must plan ahead

    Good GOLFING to ALL

    Amos

  70. Randy Sahr says:

    Don
    Your instruction/description of the hip socket, knee and ankle all being in a straight line is confusing.

    Looking down my right rear leg at address, if I spread my knees slightly like a cowboy on a horse the knee and ankle have to be outside the hip socket.

    If you are talking about a straight line as seen by an observer back in the catchers position, by adding flex to the knee won’t that put the knee outside the line of the hip socket and the ankle?

    By preloading the right hip,knee and ankle at address, what percentage of weight are you recommending?

    Thanks,
    Randy S

  71. David Kedie says:

    I have sent numerous requests for information through the web site comments asking for a response, and keep being told that “I will receive a response within 24 hours”. After more than a dozen emails I have received no response. I have asked for my money back four times – again with no response?

    What is going on.

    David Kedie

  72. John says:

    IMPORTANT: the purpose of this comment section is to foster constructive conversion about improving our blog reader’s golf game. This area is NOT designed to answer customer support questions. If you have questions about a purchase or gaining access to our private members area, please contact our customer support team at 800-603-2706 (8:00AM to 6:00PM MST, Monday Through Friday) or click here for email support. We have a new team handling support and they are very good (and they are golfers)!

    **** REALLY???***

    Then why is it that these are the ONLY posts that get answered?? There are a lot of GOLF SWING questions on here that are NOT answered. But yet Mr Ken Trahan, Mr Don Tranhan, NinerMike and others dont respond to the Golf Swing questions, only to customer concerns and to praise people for posting. Come on. Please stop being hypocritical and take the time out to answer questions to those that have purchased this product and have questions as your “important” statement suggest..

    John
    be well

  73. Linda Parchman says:

    I am totally in positive awe of your explanations of this swing. I am by nature very analytical, and I find your detailed explanations wonderful. I have always been fascinated by the golf swing. Further your explanation of loading the right leg and INCREASING THE FLEX absolutely made me EXPLODE into the swing…I could immediately tell that the force was far greater than before. The ball just FLEW off the clubface. In the past I had always kept the knee held in that position because I had thought that to be correct…your swing analysis is incredible, and I thank you so very much. I love the manual…it has everything in such detail. This is really great, all of it!!!!

  74. DaveP says:

    Surg, Thanks for adding the important reminder that the blog is for asking golf questions. And I see you have responded to some questions on the several of the posts. I was just about to sign off forever but I think I’ll wait and see if the improvments continue.

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